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  • Hope your working on this beast tomorrow, the story can't end like this!

    Whats you plan with respect to tuning?.

    Good work

    Bernie

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    • Get any work done today?

      ;-)

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      • Originally posted by berniebgf View Post
        Hope your working on this beast tomorrow, the story can't end like this!

        Whats you plan with respect to tuning?.

        Good work

        Bernie
        Don't worry Bernie I'm working on this every day until it's done! I can't wait to finish and drive it but I'm taking my time doing everything properly and performing some quite a bit of maintenance whilst it's apart. I'll upload some more pics in the morning

        Once it's all together with a new computer, with any issues ironed out, I'll book it in for a dyno tune.
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        Last edited by glen_ep; 01-12-2013, 10:21 PM.
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              Last edited by glen_ep; 31-03-2020, 08:12 PM.
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              • Originally posted by Nema View Post
                Great post Glen. I am looking at the moment to work out where to get one. Can you suggest a good supplier? And how easy has it been to fit yourself?

                This going to be my new project early next year so that the 90 is all ready for the GTG.
                Hey Nema,

                Happy to give you some suggestions but in actual fact I never even went through the process of sourcing one - it just came my way. I was contracted by a fellow driver, who's friend was selling one second hand. It was local and the price was good, so I couldn't resist. I'd suggest you have three options: 1) hope and pray to find one unused in USA (I read they stopped production of these this year), then custom install it, 2) hope to find one second hand here, and probably perform a custom install, or 3) buy the full kit from Bullet Cars in QLD - plug and play.

                This charger was from USA so it's missing the adapters and instructions which would be supplied by Bullet Cars in QLD. This does make it a little harder to install, mostly because I have to understand what every hose is and it's purpose, to be certain about where it should go. The supercharger installation manuals for 4runners/Tacoma/Tundra's are all online, even URD's 7th injector - so lots of great clues can be found there. Also a Prado workshop manual helps significantly as well, to confirm what each stock component is. Apart from that it's been very easy. I still have one challenge ahead - which is to make a custom bracket to hold the throttle & auto kick down cables.

                Good luck!
                glen_ep - engineered, 4" lift, 33" 255/85R16, lockers, 4.88 ratios www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?17237 www.youtube.com/user/glenep www.fb.com/groups/ToyotaPrado90

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                • Hi Glen,

                  Going on my memory here but I recall fitting a check valve underneath the throttle body, for the IAC valve if I recall correctly.
                  I cannot see in your pictures if you have fitted one. I will check my install notes and let you know if my memory is correct and the reason I fitted it.

                  The fuel hose "T" connection concerned me so I had a mobile hose van crimp a hose assembly up for my piece of mind.
                  I see now that URD have an adaptor to fit between the fuel pressure regulator and fuel rail to allow a take off point for measuring or fuel outlet.
                  I am considering getting one to see how it fits as i still have my original fuel line in one piece.

                  Are you getting the injectors serviced while everything is off?

                  Good to see you have gone ahead with the install, you will love the extra low down grunt.

                  Lee

                  Also move the alternator as close to the block as you can, this will allow the drive belt to wrap around the blower pulley as much as possible in order to get maximum belt grip.
                  The auto (dynamic) belt tensioner will still provide sufficent tension to drive everything.
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                  Last edited by Leethal; 02-12-2013, 02:30 PM. Reason: more info
                  '18 VX, Billies with Dobinson springs, Summit bar with Narva Enhanced Optics to help my old eyes

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                  • Very interested to see what you think the power difference is. How much has this cost so far? Would love to supercharge our Prado at some stage.
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                    • Originally posted by Leethal View Post
                      Hi Glen,

                      Going on my memory here but I recall fitting a check valve underneath the throttle body, for the IAC valve if I recall correctly.
                      I cannot see in your pictures if you have fitted one. I will check my install notes and let you know if my memory is correct and the reason I fitted it.

                      The fuel hose "T" connection concerned me so I had a mobile hose van crimp a hose assembly up for my piece of mind.
                      I see now that URD have an adaptor to fit between the fuel pressure regulator and fuel rail to allow a take off point for measuring or fuel outlet.
                      I am considering getting one to see how it fits as i still have my original fuel line in one piece.

                      Are you getting the injectors serviced while everything is off?

                      Good to see you have gone ahead with the install, you will love the extra low down grunt.

                      Lee

                      Also move the alternator as close to the block as you can, this will allow the drive belt to wrap around the blower pulley as much as possible in order to get maximum belt grip.
                      The auto (dynamic) belt tensioner will still provide sufficent tension to drive everything.
                      I'd love to know more about the check valve, what it is, and where you plugged it in. I have something which I thought is a MAP sensor, which I've T'd in between the fuel pressure and charger. I'll try and get a photo of model details up.

                      Yes, the fuel line concerned me a bit as well, I'll look into the clamp.

                      Injectors - didn't plan on it, but hey now that you've mentioned it I'm going to have to at least look into it!! lol

                      Thanks for the tips mate.
                      glen_ep - engineered, 4" lift, 33" 255/85R16, lockers, 4.88 ratios www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?17237 www.youtube.com/user/glenep www.fb.com/groups/ToyotaPrado90

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                      • Hey Lee,

                        The only sensor I have which must be hosed in somewhere doesn't have any identifiers at all, but it looks exactly like this:



                        I found that image online by searching for "MAP sensor". The Xede electrical diagram mentions a "2 bar MAP" so I figures that's what it is.

                        What I don't have is information as to where it should be installed. I went with the T piece between fuel pressure valve and charger boost inlet as it seemed the only location that would hold pressure, and not fluctuate depending on braking or atmospheric conditions.
                        glen_ep - engineered, 4" lift, 33" 255/85R16, lockers, 4.88 ratios www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?17237 www.youtube.com/user/glenep www.fb.com/groups/ToyotaPrado90

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                        • Originally posted by ratsack View Post
                          Very interested to see what you think the power difference is. How much has this cost so far? Would love to supercharge our Prado at some stage.
                          I'll definitely report on the power once it's going, and I'll upload a comparison video as well.

                          Costs would typically be between $2,500 to $8,000 to have one of these babies - depending on where you source the charger and how much work you're willing to do yourself. The proper kit from Bullet Cars in QLD costs $6,000 which does not include computer ($1,250), installation ($1,000), exhaust ($700-1,400), or dyno tune (~$700).

                          http://www.bulletcars.com/supercharg...er-system.html

                          ^ Mine is second hand so no where near that cost.
                          glen_ep - engineered, 4" lift, 33" 255/85R16, lockers, 4.88 ratios www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?17237 www.youtube.com/user/glenep www.fb.com/groups/ToyotaPrado90

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                          • hi glen_up,leathel is right there is a oneway valve missing under the throttle body,mine had a longer bango bolt and braided fuel line for the seventh injector,and what did you do about a 2nd ecu.
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                            • Originally posted by rossy View Post
                              hi glen_up,leathel is right there is a oneway valve missing under the throttle body,mine had a longer bango bolt and braided fuel line for the seventh injector,and what did you do about a 2nd ecu.
                              What kind of valve and what did it plug into? Photo? Which injector kit do you have?

                              I still have to install the computer - it's an Xede with a switch for 2 fuels.
                              glen_ep - engineered, 4" lift, 33" 255/85R16, lockers, 4.88 ratios www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?17237 www.youtube.com/user/glenep www.fb.com/groups/ToyotaPrado90

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                              • Hi Glen,

                                That MAP sensor will signal the Xede processor when & how much boost comes on, the Xede will then drive the 7th Inector to keep your fuel air mix under control.
                                I will have a look through my install paperwork I assembled re the check valve. From memory it does go in the IAC (Idle Air Control) line. A normally aspirated engine will always have negative pressure (vacuum) on the IAC valve, with the supercharger there will be positive pressure (boost) sometimes. Using a check valve will prevent the positive pressure from affecting the IAC.
                                With the fuel injectors they are easy to remove with the inlet plenum off. I had mine cleaned/checked by a mobile injector service, one injector was over fuelling by a huge margin and another two were just out of spec prior to the clean. Well worth the effort i think.

                                I used an in-line vacuum check valve normally used for brake boosters.

                                Lee
                                '18 VX, Billies with Dobinson springs, Summit bar with Narva Enhanced Optics to help my old eyes

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