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    Post Steve's 2016 150 GXL Rig Build

    I brought Rose, the red Prado this October, just before disappearing to the UK for 5 weeks.
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    [FITTED] [IN PROGRESS] [WAITING LIST]

    I've added links where possible - mostly for my reference to find the things that look interesting!

    Rose, a 2.8TD Auto Prado GXL was delivered with:
    1. Toyota towbar
    2. Max legal tinting on the side and rear windows
    3. Rubber mat in the rear, normal mats throughout

    This forum has been a great resource for ideas - thanks for sharing your ideas!
    I'm trying to get as many of these during the sales, where there is no urgency.

    Things ordered, to fit before our first trip this Christmas:
    1. Set of neoprene seat covers from Wet Seats in black with red stitching for the front and middle rows - LINK
    2. Rhino Rack 2.1m Pioneer Platform with Backbone (25% off with Autobarn weekend sale) - LINK
    3. Rhino Rack 2.5m awning (25% off with Autobarn weekend sale) - LINK
    4. Dual battery and additional cabin power setup - more in another post, as there is lot i'm still working out
    5. Hold my phone, ClickOn mount and phone holder - LINK


    On the waiting list for future budget and sales:
    1. UHF CB radio & antenna (Icom IC-450N + ZCG GRN480)
    2. Bull bar - TJM T13 or ARB Summit (after i've seen one)
    3. Dual wheel rear carrier (Kaymar or Outback Accessories)
    4. Suspension, especially after adding #3 and #4 (TBD)
    5. Draws (TBD)
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    Thumbs up Dual battery and electrical things

    Dual battery and electrical setup
    Battery: Optima D27M from Battery Specialities
    Battery tray: TBD - do i need an expensive metal tray?
    - Piranah
    - TJM
    - Outback Accessories - need more info...
    - Offroad Down Under
    Battery fuses: 2 x MEGA fuses & cases
    VSR: Traxide USI-160 (expecting i'll get a winch at some point) - LINK
    - Tim was very helpful when talking to him about options
    Battery protection: Trixide ABG-25 - LINK
    Fusebox: Littlefuse XT safety hub from SolidKit - LINK
    - fused outlets to front and rear USB chargers, UHF radio, fridge rear bar (when i come to it)
    - Peter from SolidKit was very helpful discussing options

    USB charging: SolidKit dual USB switch socket chargers - LINK
    Fridge power: TBD. Tempted to use Anderson on the internal fridge power, so it can also be used in connector on towbar when i get to it and placed in the tent when camping.

    I'm planning to use 3B&S cable between the batteries to a fusebox in the rear, where i'll break out to a external anderson connector and the internal accessories.
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    Is that 3B&S to the rear or have I misread? Unless you're intending on cranking from a battery in the rear, 6B&S (approx 13mm2) would be ample.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve.armitage View Post
    Dual battery and electrical setup
    Battery: TBD. Expect i need something 60-80AH, to keep a ARB 60l fridge cool + accessories chanrged for 2 days with 20% >SOC remaining
    Battery tray: TBD - do i need an expensive metal tray?
    - Piranah
    - TJM
    - Outback Accessories - need more info...
    Battery fuses: 2 x MEGA fuses & cases
    VSR: Traxide USI-160 (expecting i'll get a winch at some point) - LINK
    - Tim was very helpful when talking to him about options
    Battery protection: Trixide ABG-25 - LINK
    Fusebox: Littlefuse XT safety hub from SolidKit - LINK
    - fused outlets to front and rear USB chargers, UHF radio, fridge rear bar (when i come to it)
    - Peter from SolidKit was very helpful discussing options

    USB charging: SolidKit dual USB switch socket chargers - LINK
    Fridge power: TBD. Tempted to use Anderson on the internal fridge power, so it can also be used in connector on towbar when i get to it and placed in the tent when camping.

    I'm planning to use 3B&S cable between the batteries to a fusebox in the rear, where i'll break out to a external anderson connector and the internal accessories.
    Welcome Steve,

    Re Battery Tray - you can use a plastic (N70 sized) tray in the AUX spot. If its good enough for toyota under the cranking battery cant see why its not good enough under the AUX battery! Just get a solid set of battery clamps and also wouldn't hurt to brace the clamps to the front panel - there is an OEM bolt in just the right spot for this, under the black plastic cover.

    piccie of what I did:
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    Good choice on the USI-160 from traxide, if/when a winch meets my rig thats the kit I'm getting...
    Cheers
    Micheal.

    2008 GXL D4D Auto. GOING... GOING... GONE
    2015 GXL 1GD Auto. And it begins again...

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    Is that 3B&S to the rear or have I misread? Unless you're intending on cranking from a battery in the rear, 6B&S (approx 13mm2) would be ample.
    I was going to run the 3B&S from the AUX battery fuse to a fused terminal in the rear, at which point i'd spur to 6B&S to an Anderson connector and smaller to internal accessories.
    Should i draw 50 amps at a rear anderson + up to 30amps for accessories & lighting, it looks like i'd be better off with 3B&S rather than 6B&S on a 6m cable run. Website chart.

    Do you ever draw 50A on a trailer? If that's just the spec for the Anderson and it's only 20 or 30A, then i'm very happy to save a few $$$ if 6B&S is adequate.
    ATM, i don't have a trailer but was looking to install the cable once to cope with whatever happens in the future.

    Re Battery Tray - you can use a plastic (N70 sized) tray in the AUX spot. If its good enough for toyota under the cranking battery cant see why its not good enough under the AUX battery! Just get a solid set of battery clamps and also wouldn't hurt to brace the clamps to the front panel - there is an OEM bolt in just the right spot for this, under the black plastic cover.
    That's kind of what i was thinking/hoping - though isn't a N70 battery larger/heavier than the standard which may require additional support. If you've not had issues, then were good.

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    3B&S is a bit of an overkill, as it is rated for 215amps. I ran 6B&S straight form the battery to the anderson plug and a separate 8B&S from the battery to a fuse block in the rear for accessories. It separates the external power form the internal power and also means you don't need a big fuse in the block at the back, as most of them only recommend 30amp fuse max form what I have seen.
    I also used 6B&S between the batteries as it is only a short distance and has sufficient rating for the distance.
    2015 GX Prado 3L Auto, in the process of being fitted out.

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    B&S is a bit of an overkill, as it is rated for 215amps. I ran 6B&S straight from the battery to the anderson plug and a separate 8B&S from the battery to a fuse block in the rear for accessories. It separates the external power form the internal power and also means you don't need a big fuse in the block at the back, as most of them only recommend 30amp fuse max form what I have seen.
    Is there an advantage to having separate power for external and internal connections?
    - i've not come across this before as a suggested idea.

    My thinking was: larger cable to rear would mean minimal voltage drop for both internal and external devices and minimum number of large cable runs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve.armitage View Post
    Is there an advantage to having separate power for external and internal connections?
    - i've not come across this before as a suggested idea.

    My thinking was: larger cable to rear would mean minimal voltage drop for both internal and external devices and minimum number of large cable runs.
    Steve,

    Not sure if there is an advantage or not but it is the way a friend of mine who was involved in the industry recommended fitting it and it has not caused me any issues in the vehicles I have fitted that way. The reason he gave was the external connection will be subject to the weather and other abuse, then the ones in the car. Also if the external connection gets shorted out it doesn't affect the internal ones.
    As for power loss I get the same voltage reading from the 6B&S at the anderson plug as I get from the battery terminals, and the same as the 8B&S inside the car, so no detectable loss over the 4-5m of cable.

    Aidan
    2015 GX Prado 3L Auto, in the process of being fitted out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MYT150 View Post
    As for power loss I get the same voltage reading from the 6B&S at the anderson plug as I get from the battery terminals, and the same as the 8B&S inside the car, so no detectable loss over the 4-5m of cable.

    Aidan
    Is that measurement taken when the circuit is under load? Ie the voltage drop from cable runs will only be detectable when under load

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    Installed my WetSeat tailored covers

    Front
    Rear
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    And the Rhino Rack Backbone and Pioneer Platform



    I've screwed up the rear mounting bolts on the drivers side - need to find out how to get behind the paneling and fix that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve.armitage View Post
    Installed my WetSeat tailored covers

    Front

    Rear
    They look good, what was the fitting process like?
    New 2015 150s GX 5 seater with floor mats, towbar and a big wish list
    Previously a 2004 120s 1KZ GX silver manual with stuff
    before that a 1996 RV6 90S with lots of gear

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