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  • Prado 150 2.8 auto performance report - Moreton Island

    I took my new 2.8 Prado for its first visit to Moreton Island for 5 days over the Easter break and thought I would give a quick report on how I personally felt it performed.

    Firstly the power – very impressed at how well the Prado performed in soft sand, it seemed to have a surprising amount of power on tap and never really felt like it was laboring or struggling. The engine is very quiet and revs smoothly, the auto held the right gear and changed when required. Over 20+ years of beach driving and owning 4wd’s I found the Prado was leaps ahead in this area.

    The Prado is the first 4wd I’ve owned with electronic 4x4 engagement so it took a bit to get used to. I conducted several tests in 4x4 low/high, center lock on/off and found that Prado performed much better with the center locked on the soft sand. It seemed to spin wheels less and got across the soft with less effort. Low range was very low, like rock crawling low and found it was not required at all as 4H with the center locked combined with the power it seemed unstoppable for the terrain on Moreton. Almost goes without saying that for soft sand driving it's a must to disengage the TC and ESC, this got a bit frustrating at times having to hold down the button after each start up (it quickly lets you know if you’ve forgotten as soon as you hit some soft sand..).

    The last time I was on Moreton in my PB Challenger I found a hill that had some nice articulations and step ups that went on for about 200-300m. My Challenger got up it on the 3rd attempt with the rear locked, my father who was with us in his D-Max (with lift, a/t tyres) actually didn’t get up at all after several attempts. I was again very impressed as the Prado crawled up first time and hardly spun a wheel!

    The only issue I had on one occasion towards the end of the trip was when I went to engage the center diff while under low speed acceleration to head up through the cutting. It made a strange noise, like a mechanical clicking (similar to an 20 year old Corolla with stuffed CV joints on full lock), I also had the steering turned slightly less than full lock. I quickly ceased acceleration and straightened the wheels, the center engaged and it seemed all good from then and didn’t occur again. Assume this was my fault for the reasons mentioned, however if someone can confirm I’d be interested to hear?

    Also very impressed with the suspension (Dobinson/Bilstein) over the heavy corrugations across the island. Even the wife commented on how smooth if felt!

    From the time I left the house (20km to the ferry), to the time I returned it averaged 12.5 L/100km which I am happy with considering the amount of beach driving and camping gear I had on board. All in all very impressed with the new Prado, it exceeded my expectations.

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    Luke.
    2016 Toyota Prado GXL auto. ARB deluxe bar, Rock Armor side steps, 9in Penetrator LED spotties (30,000LM), Uniden 8060 UHF, Bilstein/Dobinson 2in lift, 265/70/17 Mickey Thompson ATZ P3's, Safari snorkel, Dual battery system, ARB onboard compressor, Custom rear false floor, Kaon bash plates, Ext. diff/gearbox breathers, Provent 200, Wynnum tow bar, Roadsafe tow points, Phillips crystalvision bulbs, tint, Rhino rack platform.

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    Originally posted by Lski View Post
    I took my new 2.8 Prado for its first visit to Moreton Island for 5 days over the Easter break and thought I would give a quick report on how I personally felt it performed.

    Firstly the power – very impressed at how well the Prado performed in soft sand, it seemed to have a surprising amount of power on tap and never really felt like it was laboring or struggling. The engine is very quiet and revs smoothly, the auto held the right gear and changed when required. Over 20+ years of beach driving and owning 4wd’s I found the Prado was leaps ahead in this area.
    Not suprising given the 'old' 3L never felt under torqued in soft sand, always more than enough in reserve to spin the wheels to high heaven in 4H.

    I have found I forget to turn off the TC and ESC 99% of the time and it honestly never intervened much, when it did it was just a stab at the brakes and a flashing light for a 1/2 second or so once in a while, hardly what I'd call an issue or show stopper.

    Often forget to lock the diff too, hanve't noticed much difference on most sand, tend to remember when towing.

    Stock 150 too.
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    • #3
      Did you have the suspension upgrade from car delivery? How does it compare to standard GXL kit?

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      • #4
        Hi Lski, impressive rig mate. Looking at building mine up now, how are the spotties from 4wd supacenter?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by OzDriver View Post
          Did you have the suspension upgrade from car delivery? How does it compare to standard GXL kit?
          No, I had Zordo do the suspension 2 weeks after vehicle delivery. To answer your question it is worlds apart! the on-road handling is massively improved, most noticeable is the reduced body roll through corners and diving under brakes. I personally felt the standard suspension was pretty ordinary. Cant comment on the off-road ability as never tested the standard suspension.


          Originally posted by beatit99 View Post
          Hi Lski, impressive rig mate. Looking at building mine up now, how are the spotties from 4wd supacenter?
          Thanks beatit99. The lights I have were the older model which look like the ARB intensity lights and far more powerful then the 'illuminator' model they have out now. Performance wise they are awesome, but the stainless brackets are a low grade stainless as they are already rusting after 1 month. I have actually sent them an email to see how they can rectify the issue.. I believe the illuminator lights have a black powder coated bracket.
          2016 Toyota Prado GXL auto. ARB deluxe bar, Rock Armor side steps, 9in Penetrator LED spotties (30,000LM), Uniden 8060 UHF, Bilstein/Dobinson 2in lift, 265/70/17 Mickey Thompson ATZ P3's, Safari snorkel, Dual battery system, ARB onboard compressor, Custom rear false floor, Kaon bash plates, Ext. diff/gearbox breathers, Provent 200, Wynnum tow bar, Roadsafe tow points, Phillips crystalvision bulbs, tint, Rhino rack platform.

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          • #6
            For those that are considering what to do in the 2nd battery department (isolator or DCDC) on the new prado, here is some information that may assist based results from my Moreton Island trip running a Waeco CF80DZ.

            I went with a 120amp AGM up front with an ABR 140 isolator (was using an ABR for 5 years in my previous 4wd with no issues). I ran 16mm2 twin core to a Baintech fuse block in the back where I split off to several 12v sockets. Over 5 days of running the waeco non-stop as well as running LED lights at night the battery never dropped below 12v which I was very happy with. Over the trip we did a couple of long drives across the island and I also topped up with 120w solar panels (about 1hr per day), but most drives we did were relatively short.

            I was quite concerned when reading the various posts on pradopoint about how well an isolator would perform with the 'smart' alternator, however based on this trip I can say that there was little to no difference that I could notice between my previous challenger and my prado, the isolator performed just fine.
            2016 Toyota Prado GXL auto. ARB deluxe bar, Rock Armor side steps, 9in Penetrator LED spotties (30,000LM), Uniden 8060 UHF, Bilstein/Dobinson 2in lift, 265/70/17 Mickey Thompson ATZ P3's, Safari snorkel, Dual battery system, ARB onboard compressor, Custom rear false floor, Kaon bash plates, Ext. diff/gearbox breathers, Provent 200, Wynnum tow bar, Roadsafe tow points, Phillips crystalvision bulbs, tint, Rhino rack platform.

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            • #7
              Thanks for the suspension comparison. I think I can live with the 2.8 standard suspension for a while, but will look forward to improving it (along with better tyres) in a few years. The standard ride seems generally good apart from a feeling a bit unsettled at around 60-80kph on sealed country roads.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Lski View Post
                Thanks beatit99. The lights I have were the older model which look like the ARB intensity lights and far more powerful then the 'illuminator' model they have out now. Performance wise they are awesome, but the stainless brackets are a low grade stainless as they are already rusting after 1 month. I have actually sent them an email to see how they can rectify the issue.. I believe the illuminator lights have a black powder coated bracket.
                Yeah ok, They are quoting 9000LM for the 9" illuminators so even if the spread is all over the place it should be ok, especially for the price. Have put a pair on order for early May delivery so will see how they go ;-)
                http://www.4wdsupacentre.com.au/illu...ghts-pair.html

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                • #9
                  Took my 2.8 GX to Fraser Is over Easter, towing my 1.8 tonne caravan (Windsor Rapid). Hayman Reese load levelling gear meant that the van towed pretty well. On the inland tracks on it's own, the standard suspension was pretty disappointing- it bottomed out all the time over very modest terrain. Getting an ARB OME suspension upgrade installed. Was on sale after Easter- 4 for the price of 3. Should improve things considerably.

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