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  • Should I ship my Prado to the UK?

    I bought a new (to me) 2009 150 series D4D Kakadu in 2014.
    I planned to keep it for 10yrs and love it now just as much as I did when it was shiny and new'ish in the dealership, such a great car.
    Trouble is I now find myself needing to move back to the UK for circa 4 years for work.
    I'm keen to ship my Prado over so I can use it there but appreciate that it will need some modifications to make it street-legal in the UK e.g. replace the speedo with one that shows MPH!
    I'm unsure about things like emissions standards in UK vs Aus but a Toyota rep suggested that I might need to change the exhaust to comply.

    I'm keen to get some feedback from anyone here that might have done this before and/or who knows what alterations may be required in order to export my car to the UK (and back again of course!)

    Thanks in advance.

  • #2
    what type of emission control do you have? If you prado has the same smoke level as the current eu prados of this time, there is no problem.
    uk is the country with the lowest standards concerning vehicle of the european community. change the spydo is not a big issu. they even accept a template glued over the km/h scale. As all the rest of europe has km/h and many people move in and out of london (as i did some years ago) this is a common thing to do.
    2015 shortwheelbase prado 155

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    • #3
      Last time I checked cars in the UK were cheaper than here in Australia especially when there are a few years old. Unless you have done lots of mods you would probably better off financially selling it here and buying another over there.
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      • #4
        Hi Suki, thanks for the reply. As far as I can make out from consulting Google (as I'm no mechanic) my Prado should have CO2 emissions of 225g/km which it would appear are "Euro 5 compliant". However, with the advent of Euro 6 standards, I do not know whether my car will be measured against Euro 5 or 6 standards for emissions. Does anyone know if the standards that were applicable in the year of manufacture will apply, or whether the standards at time of import will apply?
        Also, I have the spare tyre mounted on the rear door (as opposed to under the floor in the boot) is this acceptable in the UK? Looking on the UK Autotrader site it appears that none of the Land Cruisers have rear door mounted tyres...

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        • #5
          Hi Kevdebbi, having just scoured the UK Autotrader website I am finding the '09 Kakadu (UK equivalent) offered for circa £20-25k so not much different from the $AUD redbook pricing. If anything it seems a little higher...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Snodlander View Post
            Also, I have the spare tyre mounted on the rear door (as opposed to under the floor in the boot) is this acceptable in the UK?
            That's because no one over there other than the Queen can afford to fill 2 tanks with fuel. You can pretend you're rich and famous.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by kevdebbi View Post
              Last time I checked cars in the UK were cheaper than here in Australia especially when there are a few years old. Unless you have done lots of mods you would probably better off financially selling it here and buying another over there.
              Not really true. The Prado over here is definitely dearer - at least from what I've picked up from this forum - have higher mileage for the price, and there are fewer around.

              The rear wheel mount won't be a problem, (I'm after one), there's hundreds of 4x4's with them over here and my Hilux has a 285/75/16 spare on the back door. Emissions should be fine.

              Bushbasher, bang on about the fuel - twice the price of yours and yet ours is the cheapest it's been for years!
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              • #8
                euro 5 is fine for that year.
                mine is 2015 and one of the last euro5. so no problem. spare tyre is fine. thats legal too. so there is only the speedo to change.
                no worry about this.
                2015 shortwheelbase prado 155

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bushbasher View Post
                  That's because no one over there other than the Queen can afford to fill 2 tanks with fuel. You can pretend you're rich and famous.
                  Touche!
                  Every time I've been to the UK fuel prices have looked the same as in Aus... just in £... so yeah, pretty much double the price.
                  I'll be looking at about £130-150 to fill a tank, but should get about 690 miles out of it.

                  Originally posted by Saint Nick View Post
                  Not really true. The Prado over here is definitely dearer - at least from what I've picked up from this forum - have higher mileage for the price, and there are fewer around.
                  I concur, for comparison purposes you can go to http://www.autotrader.co.uk and http://www.autotrader.com.au (or http://www.redbook.com.au/)
                  Thanks for confirming the rear mounted wheel is OK.

                  Originally posted by suki View Post
                  euro 5 is fine for that year.
                  mine is 2015 and one of the last euro5. so no problem. spare tyre is fine. thats legal too. so there is only the speedo to change.
                  no worry about this.
                  Actually, after some extended research, I'm now more confused.
                  Toyota's latest Prado engines are the only ones which are Euro 5 complaint but they were launched in September 2015:
                  http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...t=2#FamilyTree

                  The AA website lists the dates for compliance to the various standards for New Type Approvals and All New Cars:
                  https://www.theaa.com/motoring_advic...standards.html

                  Looking at the Euro 5 dates, they apply to all new type approvals from September 2009 and all new cars from January 2011
                  And Euro 6 dates apply to all new type approvals from September 2014 and all new cars from September 2015

                  So how can an engine that is released in September 2015 be Euro 5 compliant? Or can it be Euro 5 compliant but needs to be Euro 6 compliant to be driven in Europe?

                  This also means that my 2009 Kakadu is only Euro 4 compliant. However it was manufactured in October 2009, so does that mean that Euro 5 standards need to apply to it? Pretty confused now.

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                  • #10
                    Do you have a bulbar?

                    Bullbars (sorry frontal protection systems) have been illegal to sell in the UK unless they conform to European standards since 2007. They'll be stamped with a big European Standards E. I'm not entirely sure of the regs for imports, but technically its not illegal to have a bulbar in UK if they pass relevant safety standards (mainly pedestrian protection). You don't have to remove them but ARB style bull bars don't meet the EU safety standards and you might get some attention from the cops.

                    They laws differ slightly in the various states of Europe so any European travel could see you trying to convince a cop in a foreign language that its not illegal.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Snodlander View Post
                      Touche!
                      Every time I've been to the UK fuel prices have looked the same as in Aus... just in £... so yeah, pretty much double the price.
                      I'll be looking at about £130-150 to fill a tank, but should get about 690 miles out of it.



                      I concur, for comparison purposes you can go to http://www.autotrader.co.uk and http://www.autotrader.com.au (or http://www.redbook.com.au/)
                      Thanks for confirming the rear mounted wheel is OK.



                      Actually, after some extended research, I'm now more confused.
                      Toyota's latest Prado engines are the only ones which are Euro 5 complaint but they were launched in September 2015:
                      http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...t=2#FamilyTree

                      The AA website lists the dates for compliance to the various standards for New Type Approvals and All New Cars:
                      https://www.theaa.com/motoring_advic...standards.html

                      Looking at the Euro 5 dates, they apply to all new type approvals from September 2009 and all new cars from January 2011
                      And Euro 6 dates apply to all new type approvals from September 2014 and all new cars from September 2015

                      So how can an engine that is released in September 2015 be Euro 5 compliant? Or can it be Euro 5 compliant but needs to be Euro 6 compliant to be driven in Europe?

                      This also means that my 2009 Kakadu is only Euro 4 compliant. However it was manufactured in October 2009, so does that mean that Euro 5 standards need to apply to it? Pretty confused now.
                      EDIT: Those only apply to EU registered vehicles. YOU need to prove yours meets the relevant environmental and safety standards, or get an exemption

                      Your best bet is to contact the relevant UK authorities. Some vehicles have mutual recognition cerificate. Contact Vehicle Certification Agency (VCA) if you’re unsure your vehicle qualifies for Mutual Recognition, or you'll have to get an exemption


                      Vehicle Certification Agency (VCA)
                      Telephone: 0300 330 5797

                      https://www.gov.uk/importing-vehicle...al-recognition

                      EDIT: Fuel Prices -average is GBP1.06 /Litre or $2.14 a litre so you are looking at $300 for a tank of fuel
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                      Last edited by r4ndll; 01-02-2016, 12:49 PM.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by r4ndll View Post
                        EDIT: Those only apply to EU registered vehicles. YOU need to prove yours meets the relevant environmental and safety standards, or get an exemption
                        I understand this, but what I do not know is whether the relevant environmental and safety standards for my (October) 2009 vehicle are the Euro 4, 5, or 6 standards.
                        Does anyone know?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Snodlander View Post
                          I understand this, but what I do not know is whether the relevant environmental and safety standards for my (October) 2009 vehicle are the Euro 4, 5, or 6 standards.
                          Does anyone know?
                          An email to the VCA in the UK will tell you
                          [SIZE=2]120 GXL D4D Auto, with a 'List of Wants' greater than the 'List of Needs' greater than the 'List of Haves'
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by r4ndll View Post
                            Do you have a bulbar?

                            Bullbars (sorry frontal protection systems) have been illegal to sell in the UK unless they conform to European standards since 2007. They'll be stamped with a big European Standards E. I'm not entirely sure of the regs for imports, but technically its not illegal to have a bulbar in UK if they pass relevant safety standards (mainly pedestrian protection). You don't have to remove them but ARB style bull bars don't meet the EU safety standards and you might get some attention from the cops.

                            They laws differ slightly in the various states of Europe so any European travel could see you trying to convince a cop in a foreign language that its not illegal.
                            I believe there is an exemption if a winch is fitted!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Scruffy View Post
                              I believe there is an exemption if a winch is fitted!
                              Grey area for 'winch bars'. But bullbars are not technically illegal in the UK and there is no requirement to have them removed if already fitted. But other EU countries have different rules, and they should conform to the 2009 European directive for pedestrian safety. If they don't, you shouldn't have them

                              https://www.gov.uk/government/upload.../bull-bars.pdf

                              EC directive - go for your life trying to read it all.
                              http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-conte...X%3A32009R0078

                              Annexe 1 - section 6 is where the ARB ones fail. Max permissible mass including fittings = 18kg
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