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  • Educate me here but I was under the impression the serious issue with the Toyota towbar is it is cast and has the potential to snap off. How does new bolts stop that?

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    • I think the problem is the relatively long cantilever overhang of the HR adjustable gooseneck overloading the casting in bending.
      IMHO, one of three things will happen:-
      1. Bending and distortion and possibly crack initiation in the casting.
      2. Movement of the tow bar relative to the attachment bolts and relative to the bolt holes on the chassis.
      3. Complete failure where the casting snaps off completely, including the chain attachment holes, chains and trailer/ caravan.

      The HR cantilever distance is much greater than the OEM gooseneck.
      You can't help good equipment.

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      • Originally posted by thebigo View Post
        Educate me here but I was under the impression the serious issue with the Toyota towbar is it is cast and has the potential to snap off. How does new bolts stop that?
        thebigo, I think you hit the nail right square on the head, I think you have it correct.
        You can't help good equipment.

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        • Latest 2006 Prado Grande Towbar update. There are no Towbars available for 2 months, that makes it August 2014 sometime. Book yours in if it is recalled and be prepared for a long wait.

          p.s. A little bird told me the new bars are downrated to 2200kg. Nowhere enough for the beautiful new Custom Billabong Wanderer 19'-0" 'van. Bugger!
          rubbishcop
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          Last edited by rubbishcop; 18-06-2014, 03:22 PM.
          You can't help good equipment.

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          • Original tow bar tested O.K. today and was left on the Prado.

            The white plastic bumper was removed & replaced to measure the tow bar for distortion.

            A new silver/black warning sticker has been applied to the black square casting saying to only use a genuine Toyota load levelling hitch.

            I was supplied gratis the chains, shackles, levelling bars, clips, clip lifting handle.

            An oversight is that the tow bar tongue was missing from the long cardboard levelling bar & chain delivery box when I got home. Going back tomoz for the tongue.

            Not sure yet of load limit yet, let you all know.

            My old HR adjustable gooseneck and towball now taken in by Toyota. I have to get a new 2" ball, and all is good again.
            rubbishcop
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            Last edited by rubbishcop; 24-06-2014, 09:39 PM. Reason: LL not known yet.
            You can't help good equipment.

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            • I now have a complete new Load Levelling set from Toyota.

              The Tow Bar Tongue was included in the unopened carton this time.

              Pleased to report that the safety sticker says 2500kg max, tow ball 250kg.
              You can't help good equipment.

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              • Hi guys I just had the recall check done and they only replaced the bolts is this correct or was I supposed to get a new one

                thanks
                04 grande, bilstein A712 &A713 kings spring , 3 inch exhaust chip it chip, XGT lightforce, 1 x lightbar, Sov Bar, Tigerz11 Grande winch with rope, Oricom UHF.

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                • Originally posted by bprado View Post
                  Hi guys I just had the recall check done and they only replaced the bolts is this correct or was I supposed to get a new one

                  thanks
                  They are supposed to get a large size Factory Set Square, take off the back bumper assy., check for >1mm distortion of the socket, and replace square casting assy if found to be more than the 1mm distortion checked against the factory set square. They take away your Hayman-Reese gooseneck, bars, chains, cam clips etc. and give you a Toyota FACTORY BRANDED Boxed Load Levelling set. Bars, chains, split pins, washers, and shackles, a complete new set of stuff. Mine was not distorted, passed O.K. got the new load levelling set complete. Brighton Toyota.
                  You can't help good equipment.

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                  • . Mine was not distorted, passed O.K. got the new load levelling set complete. Brighton Toyota.[/QUOTE]

                    Hi might sound dumb but what is the load levelling set and I had the original Toyota towbar and toung
                    04 grande, bilstein A712 &A713 kings spring , 3 inch exhaust chip it chip, XGT lightforce, 1 x lightbar, Sov Bar, Tigerz11 Grande winch with rope, Oricom UHF.

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                    • My Caravanning Neighbour had his 120 Serviced today and has previously had the Towbar replaced under the recall.
                      He was told that there are "issues " with his Towbar and have removed it completely from the Prado and have said they will Liase with Toyota and get back to him - considering he is 2000 K's from home with a 6.0M Caravan they better come up with a quick solution.
                      He was also using the Distribution bars that they also changed over ( and kept his H/R WDT. ) so they can't put blame back on him for the hitch creating problems.
                      I am now wondering if there are any on going issues with the Towbars and whether to get my change over Bar checked again. I will follow up when Toyota respond to him.

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                      • Doesn't sound good Jeff. No further explanation on what these issues are?

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                        • After much consideration and a recommendation from D4D to change the towbar I have done it.... Fitted a new HR bar and thanks to 3810pault and his pics and toyota part numbers have fitted the 150 series cover to hide the original cutout. Happy with the way it looks !

                          I could not believe the size of the original bar when it was removed
                          David (AKA Grumps)
                          Trying to get away as much as we can with the 2003 GLX 120 Series Prado towing the Jayco Expanda or 5.3 Stacer Seamaster/Merc 90HP.
                          The Prado build up is in process

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                          • I removed the Toyota (joke) towbar and fitted a Hayman Reese.

                            Its cringe worthy how that little hunk of steel is supposed to handle all that weight.

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                            • Originally posted by amts View Post
                              Doesn't sound good Jeff. No further explanation on what these issues are?
                              Andrew I have not heard anymore yet only that the new bar bolts were loose so I will post more once Toyo get back to the owner
                              Also am still spreading the word on the Auto stick shift fix.
                              Cheers Jeff

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                              • Originally posted by Jeff.C View Post
                                My Caravanning Neighbour had his 120 Serviced today and has previously had the Towbar replaced under the recall.
                                He was told that there are "issues " with his Towbar and have removed it completely from the Prado and have said they will Liase with Toyota and get back to him - considering he is 2000 K's from home with a 6.0M Caravan they better come up with a quick solution.
                                He was also using the Distribution bars that they also changed over ( and kept his H/R WDT. ) so they can't put blame back on him for the hitch creating problems.
                                I am now wondering if there are any on going issues with the Towbars and whether to get my change over Bar checked again. I will follow up when Toyota respond to him.
                                That is total crap service from anyone ! They should not be doing any recall if they can't replace the faulty designed part immediately, same day, no excuses.
                                Just went through the Government recall site and no mention of a recall on tow bars.
                                what about the owners that are second or third hand buyers, they can't even check on the recall web site as there is no mention of it there.
                                John

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