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  • Rhino Rack Pioneer Tray - which size did you buy and why?

    I purchased a Rhino Rack Pioneer platform yesterday, model # 44100B
    Size - 1528mm x 1236mm
    I am using the SXB feet from my Sportz bars for mounting purposes for now, eg: only 4 anchor points.

    There is also the larger size 44102B - 1928mm x 1236mm
    Again, I would only be using the four anchor points for now.

    Not sure if I purchased the right size though. Would sure like some feedback from people who have used one of these racks on a 150 Prado. Is the smaller one versatile enough?

    Originally intended to carry a second spare wheel, plus maybe Max Trax, awning and shovel. This would be pretty close to the 75kg weight limit for the Prado roof rails, and the smaller Pioneer platform.

    Would it be better having the extra space for lighter items that would take up a larger area one day?
    Does the larger platform cause wind noise? Does the smaller one for that matter? The vehicle appears as though it would be more streamlined with the smaller platform.

    Did you buy the smaller platform, and now wish you had the larger one, or vice versa.

    Anyone who has one of these platforms, I would value your opinion.
    Here for a good time, not a long time!

    2013 Toyota Prado GXL D4D Auto

  • #2
    I purchased the recommended 1928 x 1236 Platform for the purpose of carrying my BW Turbo tent up top of my 120 (1.43m long) which I intend on transporting with other misc camping gear inside a large Rhino luggage bag (1.5m x 1.1m). Add to that a space case across the back for spares etc and some jerrys or gas bottle and the platform is full. I cant imagine a shorter platform suiting my needs and also cant imagine it being less noisier for that fact either. If I ever go down the path of getting an 30sec Oztent then I would require a fairly long platform also as they are quite lengthy, so that box is ticked.
    2004 V6 Grande. BLACK -

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    • #3
      I have the 15xx by 19xx platform cause I have a long and wide kayak. It is not mounted on the roof rails but on the 6 mounting points on the roof once the roof rails are removed. Going to a bigger platform will also reduce what you can carry. So you'll need to strike a balance somewhere.

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      • #4
        Hi Craigm,

        it was looking at pictures of your vehicle that got my mind wandering

        Good point about the tent. Thanks for your feedback.
        Here for a good time, not a long time!

        2013 Toyota Prado GXL D4D Auto

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        • #5
          Hi tdprado,
          I had that size on my Challenger and it made no noise at all. I thinking of putting on the Prado if Toyota they ever get unf to delivering it to me.

          I did a Nullabor crossing last year with my Expanda on the back and use the rack for extra fuel, fishing holder, shovel and firewood and it worked a treat.


          Dazz

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          • #6
            I'd be interested to hear if anyone has used a roof top tent with one of the 1928x1236 racks. Currently considering a wind cheetah rack, but with the rhino being a few hundred dollars cheaper, and probably more common, it could also be an option as well if it is up to the task.

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            • #7
              I ended up taking the smaller platform back yesterday and ordered the larger platform. Hopefully will be in stock later today or Monday.

              Talking with the manager of Roof Racks Galore who has the larger platform on his 150 Prado, identical to craigm's, he agreed that the larger rack will make some wind noise when unloaded, but once the space between the slats is covered with whatever you are carrying, the majority of the noise goes away.

              To go to a six leg mounting system down the road though would be a costly exercise, because not only would I have to buy the six mounting legs, I would also have to buy the 3 cross bars and associated bits for mounting.

              Thanks to those who replied
              Here for a good time, not a long time!

              2013 Toyota Prado GXL D4D Auto

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              • #8
                Has anybody with a sunroof on their 150 fitted up the longer Pioneer Platform? I'm looking at getting the 44102B since we have a Black Wolf Turbo 300 Plus tent and a ARB Track Shelter to carry (both around 1530mm long).

                http://www.happytiger.com.au/car/Rhi...-Platform.html

                I'm concerned the shorter 42100B will be too short as it's only 1528mm long. The bags will just fit on the shorter rack with a small overhang but that leaves little room for storage boxes and other items. They tell me the longer one will not obstruct the sunroof from operating but would appreciate some user feedback. Also are eye bolts all you need to tie down tents, etc or would side rails be better?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by fido666 View Post
                  Has anybody with a sunroof on their 150 fitted up the longer Pioneer Platform? I'm looking at getting the 44102B since we have a Black Wolf Turbo 300 Plus tent and a ARB Track Shelter to carry (both around 1530mm long).

                  http://www.happytiger.com.au/car/Rhi...-Platform.html

                  I'm concerned the shorter 42100B will be too short as it's only 1528mm long. The bags will just fit on the shorter rack with a small overhang but that leaves little room for storage boxes and other items. They tell me the longer one will not obstruct the sunroof from operating but would appreciate some user feedback. Also are eye bolts all you need to tie down tents, etc or would side rails be better?
                  The longer 1900+ fits perfectly. In the picture you'll see the roof bag. Inside is a F30 Jet-tent (150cm long), Sidewalls for the tent, 4 self inflatables, poles, tarps, mesh, sleeping bags, 4 chairs, 1 Table). I've got the side rails, but don't need them stricly for this roof bag, however, they are handy if you don't use a bag. This time I would get the combo front and half sides, very practical insurance incase of sudden breaking.
                  [url]http://s23.postimg.org/jg4a2jk8r/Sydneydudes_Kaka_pioneer_platform.jpg[/url
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                  PS: The platform does not obstruct the sunroof at all
                  Sydneydude
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                  Last edited by Sydneydude; 04-05-2014, 09:45 PM.
                  2010 Kakadu. TJM T13 bar, TJM 9500lb winch, FJ Cruiser 17" rims with 265/70R17 Coopers S/T maxx, 40mm lift, Dobinson's C59-726, Bilstein shocks, Airtek snorkel, Recovery points, Brown Davies bash plates, TG150 transfer case guard. Rhino Pioneer Platform SuperPeg Rear Awning. Drifta Drawer System, Cargobarrier. Optima dual battery. GME UHF, Sandgrabbas.. ARB 47l fridge freezer.

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                  • #10
                    Fido we use the rhino eye bolts on mine, they work extremely well, you can slide them up and down the entire length of the rack. Are you going to remove the roof rails, how much height do you need to open the sunroof?
                    150 with stuff bolted on!
                    [url]http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?27272-JPH-s-150-GXL[/url]

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sydneydude View Post
                      The longer 1900+ fits perfectly. In the picture you'll see the roof bag. Inside is a F30 Jet-tent (150cm long), Sidewalls for the tent, 4 self inflatables, poles, tarps, mesh, sleeping bags, 4 chairs, 1 Table).
                      That's a lot of gear, good to know it all fits? Which roof bag is that? I see the front and half-side rails are the same price as a pair of side rails, you make a good point about sudden braking.

                      PS: The platform does not obstruct the sunroof at all
                      Good to know!

                      Originally posted by JPH View Post
                      Are you going to remove the roof rails, how much height do you need to open the sunroof?
                      Planning to leave the rails on so we can remove the platform at will. The sunroof is just a tilt slide one it doesn't go that high. I was more concerned about the rack covering the opening and blocking out the sun/moon, looks like I need not be concerned based on SydneyDude's post.
                      Last edited by fido666; 04-05-2014, 09:58 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by fido666 View Post
                        That's a lot of gear, good to know it all fits? Which roof bag is that? I see the front and half-side rails are the same price as a pair of side rails, you make a good point about sudden braking.



                        the bag is from in front camping gear, Victoria www.infrontcampinggear.com.au

                        Originally posted by fido666 View Post
                        Planning to leave the rails on so we can remove the platform at will.
                        If you asked me I'd avoid that set up and get the legs, don't use the rails. First, that configuration seems less safe, second you can "only" load up to 75kg (incl the platform), third it is easy to remove the platform with the legs, just 6 bolts.
                        2010 Kakadu. TJM T13 bar, TJM 9500lb winch, FJ Cruiser 17" rims with 265/70R17 Coopers S/T maxx, 40mm lift, Dobinson's C59-726, Bilstein shocks, Airtek snorkel, Recovery points, Brown Davies bash plates, TG150 transfer case guard. Rhino Pioneer Platform SuperPeg Rear Awning. Drifta Drawer System, Cargobarrier. Optima dual battery. GME UHF, Sandgrabbas.. ARB 47l fridge freezer.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sydneydude View Post
                          the bag is from in front camping gear, Victoria www.infrontcampinggear.com.au
                          OK, thanks for the link.

                          If you asked me I'd avoid that set up and get the legs, don't use the rails. First, that configuration seems less safe, second you can "only" load up to 75kg (incl the platform), third it is easy to remove the platform with the legs, just 6 bolts.
                          I'm aware of the reduced weight carrying limit. If using the legs and you remove them then don't you need to keep the rails to cover up the holes left? To use the legs isn't it a different part no for the rack as well?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by fido666 View Post

                            I'm aware of the reduced weight carrying limit. If using the legs and you remove them then don't you need to keep the rails to cover up the holes left?
                            The holes can be covered with covers that come with the legs. 6 bolts. Easy.
                            2010 Kakadu. TJM T13 bar, TJM 9500lb winch, FJ Cruiser 17" rims with 265/70R17 Coopers S/T maxx, 40mm lift, Dobinson's C59-726, Bilstein shocks, Airtek snorkel, Recovery points, Brown Davies bash plates, TG150 transfer case guard. Rhino Pioneer Platform SuperPeg Rear Awning. Drifta Drawer System, Cargobarrier. Optima dual battery. GME UHF, Sandgrabbas.. ARB 47l fridge freezer.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sydneydude View Post
                              The holes can be covered with covers that come with the legs. 6 bolts. Easy.
                              So is it still an SXB platform you use with the legs or some other variant? I can't seem to find the SXB legs on the Rhino Rack site, only the RLCP ones.

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