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  • Matt's 2012 TD 150 Series Prado

    G'day Guys,

    Well I've been on and off this site for years trying to always compare the Prado to other vehicles, i wish i just did it to begin with! I've owned a few vehicles, the last one being a petrol 200 series... I've learnt a lot of lessons the hard way after that expensive fuel guzzler! So far the prado has ticked all the boxes for me.

    I live out of town and do a lot of 4wd/camping trips so my primary requirement was an economical and capable 4WD and it had to be a Toyota!

    Completed Mods (Updated Feb 2014)

    - ARB Deluxe winch bull bar
    - ARB side rails and integrated steps
    - KayMar Rear Bar with dual wheel carriers
    - KayMar High Lift jack holder
    - Hi-lift Jack
    - Suspension: Cal Off Road 3" Lift (Upper control arms, diff drop kit, tuned Bilsteins shocks & custom Dobinsons coils) superior engineering adjustable panhard rod, extended sway bar links and re-locators
    - CoilRite Airbags
    - Drifta Drawers
    - MSA 4x4 fridge drop slide
    - ARB Awning
    - Safari Snorkel
    - Dual battery system with Optima Yellow Top + Redarc BCDC1225
    - ARB Under bonnet air compressor
    - GME TX3520 UHF
    - External GME speaker
    - GME AE4705 Antenna
    - RFI NextG Antenna
    - Rhino Platform roof rack (42102B)
    - Rhino Rack Shovel Holder
    - 2 x ARB LED Intensity Spot Beam Driving Lights
    - 1 x 20" Aurora LED Light Bar (5 watt leds)
    - Piranha Diff Breathers
    - WaterWatch fuel monitoring alarm system
    - 2 x 10 watt LED flood lights on rear of roof rack
    - Waeco 50L CFX Fridge + Wireless monitor
    - ARB Bullbar Parker/Indicator LED Upgrade

    Future Mods:
    - Cargo Barrier
    - New rims and 285's
    - Winch

    January 2013:



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    vxcruiser08
    Senior Member
    Last edited by vxcruiser08; 08-09-2014, 08:05 PM.

  • #2
    25 years old and you've already owned a 200 series??? Damn! My car when I was 25 was a 1986 4runner with a 2.4l diesel (non-turbo). Damn I loved that car though!

    Anywho, I digress...

    Congrats on the Prado! $1400 seems a little pricey, but it depends on what Redarc controller you have and also what battery you are getting chucked in. Are you also getting some outlets put in the back? What about a fuse block and maybe an override switch? It all starts to add up then...

    I have an ARB air compressor installed under bonnet with no dramas. Under the seat is also a popular option.

    As for your other questions, I'll leave it to others who have more experience with the products you are considering.
    NOW FOR SALE!!! - 2004 Silver GXL 3lt 4spd Auto - ARB Bullbar, Safari Snorkel, Redarc Dual Battery System, Cooper ST MAXX, Dark Tint, IPF900XS spots, Raised Bilstein/Kings Suspension/Firestone Airbags, Autosafe Cargo Barrier, Sandgrabbers, Rola Roof Rack Stuff, Insect Screen, Dust/Wind Deflectors, Sheepskin/Black Duck Seatcovers, GME TX3510, ARB underbonnet compressor, Allied Hammer Rims, ARB UVP, [url="http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?18043-Rock-sliders-steel-side-steps"]AJ Sliders[/url]

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    • #3
      Matt, 7.5 L/100k's is extremely frugal. With all the gear on mine driving around town I am only getting 13.2 L/100k's but total k's to date is only 7,000.
      2012 GXL White Prado. TJM BUllbar, TJM Winch, TJM Side Steps and Bush Bars, Black Widow Drawers, MSA Fridge Drop Slide, TJM Dual Battery Setup with Optima Battery, TJM Snorkel, Black Widow Roof Rack with Fred's Arm & TJM Awning, GME 3340 UHF, HID Drivivng Lights, TJM full underbody protection, Morosso Oil catch can, MSA Canvas Seat Covers, Kaymar Rear Bar with Dual Wheel Carriers. Cooper STMax tyres on original rims.Scanguage II.

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      • #4
        This is the breakdown of the quote for the dual batteries:

        4321130 - Aux Batt Kit Prado 150 Diesel SBI12 - $324.04
        4221030 - Batt Tray Kit Prado 10/09ON - $97.11
        122102 - Batt NS70X Century UHP STD D Yellow Blue 13 - $182.06
        Fitting of the above - $181.82

        BCDC1225 - RedArc S/Start DC/DC Battery Charger 12v 25A - $365.12
        Fitting of RedArc charger - $200
        Install outlet for fridge etc in rear - $150

        = Total $1499.00

        + Optional monitor for $250.

        Thoughts? Is this a crap battery? I asked for an explanation of advantage of spending the extra $200 for the optima battery i think it was but he said he wasn't sure!

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        • #5
          that battery is a normal start battery ,if you are running a fridge off it it will sulphate in no time ,the price is also up there as well ,i would go with the optima but shop around for a good price
          2012 Graphite GXL T/D Auto, with all the normal crap you fit

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          • #6
            Thanks mate, tell me this. I went to TJM and the bloke there actually explain to me how it all works.

            He said to me I don't need the "RedArc S/Start DC/DC Battery Charger". I only need the isolator?

            Total came to $1100 with a marine deep cycle battery. Apparently they recommend these due to value for money. This also included wiring to the rear and two outlets, also a switch for jump starting installed.

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            • #7
              From my understanding, the D4D motor (or any motor for that matter) is known to have issues when charging a second battery in that the alternator struggles to put out enough to charge it sufficiently. The RedArc charger you were quoted on boosts the charge to the second battery to help bring it up to a better charge rate as well as isolates the two batteries.

              I think the RedArc you were quoted on may also account for various battery types, but best you search on that one.

              Maybe try getting a quote from a different ARB store or even a reputable auto electrician.

              And as stated above, shop around for your battery as there are so many types and prices out there. Plenty of info on this forum to help you with that.
              NOW FOR SALE!!! - 2004 Silver GXL 3lt 4spd Auto - ARB Bullbar, Safari Snorkel, Redarc Dual Battery System, Cooper ST MAXX, Dark Tint, IPF900XS spots, Raised Bilstein/Kings Suspension/Firestone Airbags, Autosafe Cargo Barrier, Sandgrabbers, Rola Roof Rack Stuff, Insect Screen, Dust/Wind Deflectors, Sheepskin/Black Duck Seatcovers, GME TX3510, ARB underbonnet compressor, Allied Hammer Rims, ARB UVP, [url="http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?18043-Rock-sliders-steel-side-steps"]AJ Sliders[/url]

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              • #8
                the marine battery is good value , still a starting (do you need starting?)and some deep cycle , they have a gell inside them to stop the plates rattling around and breaking internally
                As Madkore said it would be a good idea to fit the dc/dc charger
                2012 Graphite GXL T/D Auto, with all the normal crap you fit

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                • #9
                  Redarc BCDC1225 is good, but you can get the BCDC1240 for under $400 if you shop around online. The advantage you have here is that it puts out 40amps rather than 25amps. This will recharge your second battery faster. Also if you are looking to one day put an anderson plug on the the rear for a camper or a van, once you allow for voltage drop the 40amp charger will do a better all round job. Each DCDC charger will suffer current drop due to the heat under the bonnet, so a 25amp charger will not necessarily put out a constant 25amps (likewise for the 40). The DCDC charger is also a multi-stage charger which looks after your battery better = longer battery life.
                  2012 D4D GXL Auto - Graphite with some TJM enhancement.
                  [URL="http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?27018-Alberto-s-150-Graphite-GXL-D4D"]My Build Up[/URL]

                  [SIZE=4][/SIZE][COLOR="#800080"][/COLOR][I][/I][B]A Truly Happy person is one who can enjoy the scenery whilst on a detour!!![/B]

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                  • #10
                    Thanks a lot for the helps guys. It's very confusing and obviously expensive just to simply run a fridge!
                    Sounds like the DCDC charger is a must and a proper deep cycle battery.

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                    • #11
                      A second battery is not just for a fridge (although I think cold beer is worth the cost), but you can get dual purpose batteries which will allow you to turn over the engine should you main battery die.

                      For me, who owns an automatic, this justified the expense.
                      NOW FOR SALE!!! - 2004 Silver GXL 3lt 4spd Auto - ARB Bullbar, Safari Snorkel, Redarc Dual Battery System, Cooper ST MAXX, Dark Tint, IPF900XS spots, Raised Bilstein/Kings Suspension/Firestone Airbags, Autosafe Cargo Barrier, Sandgrabbers, Rola Roof Rack Stuff, Insect Screen, Dust/Wind Deflectors, Sheepskin/Black Duck Seatcovers, GME TX3510, ARB underbonnet compressor, Allied Hammer Rims, ARB UVP, [url="http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?18043-Rock-sliders-steel-side-steps"]AJ Sliders[/url]

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                      • #12
                        Definitely a good point MadKore!

                        Well i'll go to ARB see what they can do.

                        What is everyone's thoughts on getting suspension done before the bar work? I am concerned about ground clearance as I have a trip over easter and I wouldn't count on the bullbar being here before that date.

                        TJM said it will top out a lot and most likely stuff the shocks?!

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                        • #13
                          Managed to get a rock jammed into the crapteks while driving along my dirt road yesterday! So this was a good opportunity to remove the soccer mum plastic cover. Although I think its a little boring with a standard tyre. I think new tyres are calling my name this week. Still unsure about the lift before bar work?!

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                          vxcruiser08
                          Senior Member
                          Last edited by vxcruiser08; 27-01-2013, 06:53 AM.

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                          • #14
                            I think the 150's have been around long enough now that most suppliers understand the weights involved in setting up a suitable suspension, so going ahead before the bar work shouldn't pose to many issues. Just be mindful that without the bar work, the car will ride just a little higher and most likely, a little harsher/ harder. Depending on the setup, this could well be the case after anyway. I know mine, with 400kg rear springs, rides beautifully when loaded and with the boat on, pretty good with the whole family (4 kids), and a little hard empty. But when I do go away, I know the car is set up to handle all the gear we take.

                            Cheers,
                            Dusty

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                            • #15
                              Matt,

                              I set-up my 120 (not that different) with bilsteins and King Springs. Heavy duty springs are too harsh even with the steel bar winch etc so I decided on the Kings front "H" spring. This works by being a longer spring allowing for accessories and gave me the ride. Twelve months on I'm very pleased with the result. A friend of mine did the same with his 150 about seven months ago and is also very happy.

                              I made the assumption that ARB would have the stock and fitted the suspension first. This was not the case and I was left driving around for two or more months with the front up in the air being very careful over speed bumps and zero off road as the concern was the shocks would top out.

                              If you do go for a similar set up take my advice and do the bar (as a minimum) winch and soon after the suspension.

                              I'm also setting up a dual battery system for the 150 at the moment. If you are going down the path of an on board charger for a few dollars more The Redarc BCDC1240 is the way to go.

                              Whatever you decide you have made a good vehicle choice and if you look after it the Prado will last you many years and serve you well.

                              Hazza
                              Silver 120 Series Diesel GXL 2009 with Option Pack 2, king Springs 2" Lift with 'H' front spring, MT ATZ 4-RIB, Dual Battery, Deluxe ARB Bull-bar, Winch, Towbar, Anderson 50 amp plug at the rear, Weather Shields, Bonnet and Head Light Protectors, Rubber Mats inc Cargo mat, UHF Ariel, Portable Uniden UHF plugs into areal, On-board ARB Compressor, Brains Black Box TG150 Protector, Rear Black Duck Seat Covers.

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