EFS Suspension

[Steve M]

this is the snake racing type but Im sure even pedders sell them too ?? Cheers Steve StrutSpacersD40.jpg

[Steve M]

http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...h-poly-spacers

[Peterpilot]

this is the snake racing type but Im sure even pedders sell them too ??
Cheers Steve
StrutSpacersD40.jpg

Those strut top spacers lift the front end by increasing the entire length of the strut, adding to both the open and closed dimensions of the strut. The danger with these is if you increase the closed length of the strut to the point where the strut bottoms before the front bumpstop is reached, you risk destroying the strut: http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...l=1#post295569

The EFS front strut is already one of the longer struts at 560mm open and 432mm closed: http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...nsion-Database so the maximum I suggest is a 10mm strut top spacer for 2 reasons:
1- At 442mm closed length, you are nearing the limit for the bumpstop. At closed lengths of more than 445-450mm the bumpstop will need to be extended.
2- At 570mm open length, you are close to the physical limit of space between the upper and lower control arms. A strut longer than 580mm will probably be too long to fit.

The good news is that a 10mm spacer should gain you 20-25mm lift, but the strut needs to be dis-assembled to fit longer studs to the strut tops (the 25mm and 35mm spacers do not need strut dis-assembly, but are too long for the above reasons):
http://store.snakeracing.com.au/~snakerac/product_info.php?cPath=3_107_424&products_id=3748& osCsid=ae1283ebe0c70a3f5ac44c8bacda1a9d

A 5mm spacer should give you 10mm lift, without the need to dis-assemble the strut: http://www.superiorengineering.com.a...oducts_id=7842

http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...h-poly-spacers

Poly spacers or trim packers are the same as simply fitting longer springs as far as the lift is achieved. The strut needs to be dis-assembled to fit them, the same as if you fitted new springs but without the cost. Other strut brands achieve the same outcome with an adjustable spring seat of various designs, like Bilstein, Ridepro, Lovells, Ironman and Icon to name a few.

Spring spacers can also be made of steel like these ones: http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...l=1#post274521

[Steve M]

You lost me at the open and shut part lol.. I have no idea on this stuff only what I have read and seen on here or general talk. Ive also heard that anything with IFS is suppose to be lower in the nose then the rear end. I think I read that in 4wd action magazine, again only what I have read, think this had some thing to do with steering ?? will see if I still have the magazine, probably thrown it......Cheers Steve

[Peterpilot]

That's right Steve, the Prado should be about 20-30mm higher at the back than the front when measured from bottom of rim to guard.

[gxl_d4d]

If the rear is less than 20mm higher than the front, the back of the car will be lower than the front when measuring from the ground to the bottom of the side steps. The problem will get worse when you're carrying a load.

[Marlan Gounden]

Hi Guys,

I need some advice please. I intend upgrading to an EFS suspension from my standard one but I'm confused as to which one I should go for.

This is my current set up:
1. Roof rack which will be heavily loaded at least 6-8 times a year (incl Hi-Lift jack, spade)
2. Fully loaded cargo area with fridge and all other stuff
3. 2 adults and 2 kids.
4. rock sliders, and replacement (Lynx 4x4) rear steel bumper.
5. 4mm bash plates soon to be fitted

I use the vehicle for trips and maybe once or twice a week (unloaded) as well.I also do trails once a month.

I intend installing an ARB sahara bumper in a couple of months so I need to consider that as well.

Should I go for the Elite, Enforcer or Extreme

[toddy]

You lost me at the open and shut part lol.. I have no idea on this stuff only what I have read and seen on here or general talk. Ive also heard that anything with IFS is suppose to be lower in the nose then the rear end. I think I read that in 4wd action magazine, again only what I have read, think this had some thing to do with steering ?? will see if I still have the magazine, probably thrown it......Cheers Steve

Steve, I noticed on mine that the rear does sit higher than the front. Where can I find out more about this, google didn't give me much or maybe using the wrong terms...

Is it an IFS trait? I'd be interested to learn more.

Cheers,

[Steve M]

Mate I probably know as much as you do about it or you probably no more lol. I have only read that about the front should be lower then the rear ??? I know when I look at the standard 100 series land cruiser they are extremely noticeable in regards to this, they really look like there nose diving especially under brakes...Myn has the standard suspension in it and is noticeable the front sitting lower then the rear, but then when its loaded the bum squats down a bit lower the the front, i really need to update the suspension as its annoying and i dont feel like it handles any where near as good when really loaded, especially compared to both my old 90's that had OME fitted, they rode extremely well both loaded and unloaded and with out the need for airbags in the rear coils.......
""Is it an IFS trait? I'd be interested to learn more."" I would say a definate yes
Cheers Steve