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Wow! That looks pretty good. The real test is when you check the outlet hose after 2000km for any oil residue - doesn't matter if there is oil caught in the bottom of the catch can, if oil mist still gets out, it just delays the inevitable intake clean.My white GX auto build thread - [URL="http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?35075-Early-s-150-TD-Prado"][U][B][COLOR="#0000FF"]clicky[/COLOR][/B][/U][/URL]
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I have a quick question for all you mech-heads
Where does the blow-by gases generate from?
1 - the Crank case (bottom)
2 - the valve cover (top)
I'm trying to work out the direction the air flows.Prado MY14 150 Series Altitude - Rhino Pioneer rack with backbone system, Tint, Fuel Manager Pre-Filter Fuel/Water Separator, Mann Provent 200 oil catch can, Toyota 2.5T Tow Bar, Scangauge2, TJM T3 winch bar, Narva HID 225, Polyair Air bags, 2" lift (Bilstein & Kings), Uniden 7700 with GME AE4018BK3, 32" LED Light bar, 2mt Awning, 1100mm Treds with mount plates
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Crankcase which vents to the valve cover. Gases bypass the piston rings increasing pressure in the sump. The sump pressure vents through the oil galleries etc to the valve cover.My 150 build - http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?27423-A-Random-approach-to-a-Bluestorm-150-GXL-D4D-automatic
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And that is what my initial thoughts were too mjrandom.
Have a look at all the pic's here on the provent 200 install. All of them have the top tube (closet to the removal cap) going to the valve cover and the bottom tube (closet to the oil drain plug) going to the crank case. Seems logical...
If you look at the top tube on the real provent can you will see an arrow point towards the body of the can and the bottom tube pointing away from the can. This indicates the air flow direction.
Now if mjrandom is correct which I also believe, then all the installs here are incorrect.Prado MY14 150 Series Altitude - Rhino Pioneer rack with backbone system, Tint, Fuel Manager Pre-Filter Fuel/Water Separator, Mann Provent 200 oil catch can, Toyota 2.5T Tow Bar, Scangauge2, TJM T3 winch bar, Narva HID 225, Polyair Air bags, 2" lift (Bilstein & Kings), Uniden 7700 with GME AE4018BK3, 32" LED Light bar, 2mt Awning, 1100mm Treds with mount plates
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In this image you can see the direction of the air flow by the arrow
http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/n-d57o0b...80.480.jpg?c=2Prado MY14 150 Series Altitude - Rhino Pioneer rack with backbone system, Tint, Fuel Manager Pre-Filter Fuel/Water Separator, Mann Provent 200 oil catch can, Toyota 2.5T Tow Bar, Scangauge2, TJM T3 winch bar, Narva HID 225, Polyair Air bags, 2" lift (Bilstein & Kings), Uniden 7700 with GME AE4018BK3, 32" LED Light bar, 2mt Awning, 1100mm Treds with mount plates
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look at my above linkPrado MY14 150 Series Altitude - Rhino Pioneer rack with backbone system, Tint, Fuel Manager Pre-Filter Fuel/Water Separator, Mann Provent 200 oil catch can, Toyota 2.5T Tow Bar, Scangauge2, TJM T3 winch bar, Narva HID 225, Polyair Air bags, 2" lift (Bilstein & Kings), Uniden 7700 with GME AE4018BK3, 32" LED Light bar, 2mt Awning, 1100mm Treds with mount plates
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no.. no obvious Red arrow and that why users have it installed wrong.
The good thing is it doesn't do any damage to the can or the motor, but it will not do its job 100%
To fix you will need to remove can, clean and put a new filter and reverse the hoses.Prado MY14 150 Series Altitude - Rhino Pioneer rack with backbone system, Tint, Fuel Manager Pre-Filter Fuel/Water Separator, Mann Provent 200 oil catch can, Toyota 2.5T Tow Bar, Scangauge2, TJM T3 winch bar, Narva HID 225, Polyair Air bags, 2" lift (Bilstein & Kings), Uniden 7700 with GME AE4018BK3, 32" LED Light bar, 2mt Awning, 1100mm Treds with mount plates
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The catch can is taking fumes/gases etc from the rocker cover and sending the filtered fumes to the inlet of the intercooler. The installs are correct, nothing goes into the crankcase.My 150 build - http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?27423-A-Random-approach-to-a-Bluestorm-150-GXL-D4D-automatic
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Maybe I have jumped the gun here
The pipe that is removed between the valve cover to the ?????? I though looked to be the crank case.
Please correct me as I have no diagram to view and its a little tight to see what going on down in that area of the motor.Prado MY14 150 Series Altitude - Rhino Pioneer rack with backbone system, Tint, Fuel Manager Pre-Filter Fuel/Water Separator, Mann Provent 200 oil catch can, Toyota 2.5T Tow Bar, Scangauge2, TJM T3 winch bar, Narva HID 225, Polyair Air bags, 2" lift (Bilstein & Kings), Uniden 7700 with GME AE4018BK3, 32" LED Light bar, 2mt Awning, 1100mm Treds with mount plates
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Hopefully posting this is ok and not a breach of copyright.
Inlet is the top port, this takes the hose from the crankcase via the rocker cover. The lower port then runs to the intercooler inlet. If you look at the various pics in this thread you can see the upper port connected straight to the rocker cover while the lower port gets connected to the steel pipe leading to the air system. Don't get confused and think that the steel pipe goes to the crankcase.
There are better pics but here is mine:
Rocker cover straight to the top port of the Provent 200. Lower port then runs to the steel pipe.My 150 build - http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?27423-A-Random-approach-to-a-Bluestorm-150-GXL-D4D-automatic
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Thank you.
My confusion was where the steel pipe was going AND not knowing that the valve cover was venting for the crank case. What a brain f@&t I just had.
The reason I came back to this is that I'm also finding oil residue when I open the provent cover. Now that I understand whats going on this makes a lot on sense. I need to check the other pipe and make sure its clean to know its doing its job.Prado MY14 150 Series Altitude - Rhino Pioneer rack with backbone system, Tint, Fuel Manager Pre-Filter Fuel/Water Separator, Mann Provent 200 oil catch can, Toyota 2.5T Tow Bar, Scangauge2, TJM T3 winch bar, Narva HID 225, Polyair Air bags, 2" lift (Bilstein & Kings), Uniden 7700 with GME AE4018BK3, 32" LED Light bar, 2mt Awning, 1100mm Treds with mount plates
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