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  • 3.4L Pacemaker Extractors - impressions and install tips

    Product:
    Pacemaker PH 12660 "LANDCRUISER PRADO | 3.4 LITRE V6 | 1996-Feb 03"
    http://www.pacemaker.com.au/toyota_6cyl.html

    Old vs new:



    Impressions:
    First day: On startup I instantly noticed a nice subtle purr, but I've kept the stock tail end so it's not over done like the ricers with those big canons. The resonating flat spot at 2,700-3,000 had gone, and it now revs through easier. On heavy reving there's some air flow sound.

    Second day: Take off accelleration 0-100km/h on the highway seemed quicker. Not jaw dropping of course, just a subtle change. Whilst 4x4ing the purring sounded great, especially noticable on any slow inclines. Check out the video Declan uploaded yesterday - you'll get to hear mine vs the blue 3.4L with stock exhaust. http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...l=1#post302157

    Third day: Again, the take off accelleration 0-80km/h seemed quicker. I think it revs through the range a little quicker without that flat spot.

    Bottom line, feels and sounds a bit nicer if you're paying attention, but it doesn't transform the vehicle. In the scheme of things you'd be better off saving the $600 (parts only) for a diff locker if you don't already have one, but I do, so I'm very happy with it. My only regret was not changing my aging starter motor at the same time, because it looks like the headers are in the way now, making the pending starter swap even more painful.

    Tips for install:
    - The old nuts can be extremely hard to undo so prepare them ahead of time with a nut/bolt penetrating lubricant. I had no issues at the top end, but one of the driver side junctions almost became a cut off job.
    - You need a good set of socket tools to remove the old gear. I used all 3 extensions and the universal joint, plus a 600mm breaker bar. Getting the new headers on in a reasonable time requires a 14mm ratchet spanner.
    - If your starter motor has any signs of issues, consider replacing it (especially automatic owners who enjoy river crossings or splashing in mud).
    - You'll lose the heat shields with this upgrade.
    - The automatic kick down cable will need to be tied off, away from the extractors, as the standard heat sheild/guide is permanently removed.

    Parts temporarily removed during the process:
    - front bash plates
    - front wheels and rubber splash guards (between wheel well and engine bay)
    - automatic kick down cable bracket
    - automatic dip stick pipe
    - air box, and ducting to intake
    - power steering pump/bracket (just loosened)
    - some studs from the block (instructions say 5 of them, but I got away with just 2).
    glen_ep
    Addicted PP Member
    Last edited by glen_ep; 12-11-2013, 03:17 PM.
    glen_ep - engineered, 4" lift, 33" 255/85R16, lockers, 4.88 ratios www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?17237 www.youtube.com/user/glenep www.fb.com/groups/ToyotaPrado90

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    Some more photos:





    glen_ep
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    Last edited by glen_ep; 12-11-2013, 03:17 PM.
    glen_ep - engineered, 4" lift, 33" 255/85R16, lockers, 4.88 ratios www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?17237 www.youtube.com/user/glenep www.fb.com/groups/ToyotaPrado90

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    • #3
      Some more photos:





      glen_ep
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      Last edited by glen_ep; 12-11-2013, 03:18 PM.
      glen_ep - engineered, 4" lift, 33" 255/85R16, lockers, 4.88 ratios www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?17237 www.youtube.com/user/glenep www.fb.com/groups/ToyotaPrado90

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      • #4
        Question: The Pacemaker site says the fitting time is 3 hours. Any comments?

        EDIT: I should mention that my videos are not uploaded with enough quality to be really useful for sound analysis/comparison.
        Originally posted by glen_ep View Post
        Check out the video Declan uploaded yesterday - you'll get to hear mine vs the blue 3.4L with stock exhaust. http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread...l=1#post302157
        williade
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        Last edited by williade; 28-08-2011, 06:17 PM.
        [B]Declan[/B]: [SIZE=1]1997 GXL 4.5 Auto 80 series on [B][COLOR="#FF0000"]LPG[/COLOR][/B], ARB bullbar, 2" OME lift, 32" MTZ, GME UHF, rear ARB locker, Kaymar spare wheel carrier[/SIZE]
        [B]PLANNED[/B]: [SIZE=1]3 or 4" suspension lift, 2" body lift (maybe), winch, 35" MTZ + roadies, front locker, sliders, cylinder head rebuilt for [B][COLOR="#FF0000"]LPG[/COLOR][/B], Garret [COLOR="#4499ff"][B]Turbocharger[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE]

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        • #5
          Answer from the words of the distributor: "You'll need a lot of patience"
          Definitely allow much more than 3 hours. I spent that just taking them off. It was a hard job, but I like working on my car and learning

          I watched your video once last night and with my sound system I could notice the difference. I don't know about computer speakers though!
          glen_ep - engineered, 4" lift, 33" 255/85R16, lockers, 4.88 ratios www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?17237 www.youtube.com/user/glenep www.fb.com/groups/ToyotaPrado90

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          • #6
            Hi Glenn,

            I did notice the difference in sound from our Ourimbah trip to when I watched yesterdays vids last night, before you changed your signature. I remember changing the exhaust on my 2001 TD and removing the dump pipe required a lot of patience, some swearing, some walking away, more swearing and then some patience but worth it in the long run.
            [B]Dave[/B] - 2010 Silver GXL Prado 150 TD Manual.

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            • #7
              i could notice the difference standing behind the car while you were going up the rock step... sounded awesome... time for a high flow exhaust now... straight trough mufflers... :S
              Front and Rear ARB Air Lockers - Maxxis Bighorn 32inch M/Ts - Black 16x8 Sunrasias - Bilstein shocks - Lovells springs - Duel batteries - Ironman winch bar - Safari snorkel - Turbo timer - Boost guage - 3 inch mandrel bent exhaust - DP chip - Diff breathers - Custom Drawers - Towbar - Cargo barrier - HID spotties - Roof cage - Rear floodlight - Arb compressor - Garmin 1490T with Topos - 12000 Winch - Ozito chainsaw blah blah blah

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              • #8
                For those that can't purchase directly from distributors or want to spare them selves the pain, sweat, rage, cursing and seized bolts, Tuffy Mufflers in Epping, Sydney have quoted me $660 parts + $180 for fitting.
                [B]Declan[/B]: [SIZE=1]1997 GXL 4.5 Auto 80 series on [B][COLOR="#FF0000"]LPG[/COLOR][/B], ARB bullbar, 2" OME lift, 32" MTZ, GME UHF, rear ARB locker, Kaymar spare wheel carrier[/SIZE]
                [B]PLANNED[/B]: [SIZE=1]3 or 4" suspension lift, 2" body lift (maybe), winch, 35" MTZ + roadies, front locker, sliders, cylinder head rebuilt for [B][COLOR="#FF0000"]LPG[/COLOR][/B], Garret [COLOR="#4499ff"][B]Turbocharger[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE]

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                • #9
                  Looks great Glenn. I've been thinking about extractors for a while now. The factory exhaust is a shocker. I got a great quote on the same pacemaker jobbies here in adelaide from AAA Exhausts. $440 supplied and $90- $100 for a high flow muffler to replace the Toyota choke box. I'll be heading down there after the long weekend to grab them before they change their mind!
                  I reckon they look to be one of the best designs and I like the way they bolt up to the rest of the ( not so bad ) system.
                  Hoping for a bit of an economy improvement as much as anything. Have you guys found any gains here?
                  Cheers Ben.

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                  • #10
                    I had a set of Pacemakers fitted and the muffler replaced just before a "short" road trip (Brisbane - Birdsville - Flinders Range & back)
                    With roof rack loaded with 2nd spare, swag awning etc, 265/75 MTR's fitted and the usual gear (fridge, water etc) my economy was the same when I run with 265/70 ATR's, no rack etc.

                    So my fuel economy has improved with the pacemakers as usually the MTR's add at least a liter/100km and thats without the roof rack etc.

                    Once I have done some "normal" driving I will post the results.

                    Lee
                    '18 VX, Billies with Dobinson springs, Summit bar with Narva Enhanced Optics to help my old eyes

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                    • #11
                      Great Lee, that's just what the missus needs to hear! Reckon I've snuck em past her!
                      Cheers mate!

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                      • #12
                        Well I picked up the pacemaker extractors and redback high flow muffler during the week. $560 all up including some extra 2.5" pipe the guys flared for me to help fit up the muffler. Great price and service, I'm stoked.
                        Fitted up the system today, bit of a cow of a job mostly the removal of the old system. Had to trim the right header a fraction to clear the power steering pump bracket. Other than that the system fitted up really well. Of course I did the obligatory start up with just the headers ( as you do) before fitting up the rest of the system. Sounds great even though I haven't done the muffler yet. Going for a drive tomorrow, keen to see if there's much improvement!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Torrie 72 View Post
                          Well I picked up the pacemaker extractors and redback high flow muffler during the week. $560 all up including some extra 2.5" pipe the guys flared for me to help fit up the muffler. Great price and service, I'm stoked.
                          Fitted up the system today, bit of a cow of a job mostly the removal of the old system. Had to trim the right header a fraction to clear the power steering pump bracket. Other than that the system fitted up really well. Of course I did the obligatory start up with just the headers ( as you do) before fitting up the rest of the system. Sounds great even though I haven't done the muffler yet. Going for a drive tomorrow, keen to see if there's much improvement!
                          I almost grabbed the grinder for the right hand side (due to power steering), but ended up loosening the pump bracket, and got it in that way.

                          Is yours an auto? If so, how'd you go with the dip stick relocation? That small task was the worst part of the job for me!
                          glen_ep - engineered, 4" lift, 33" 255/85R16, lockers, 4.88 ratios www.pradopoint.com.au/showthread.php?17237 www.youtube.com/user/glenep www.fb.com/groups/ToyotaPrado90

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                          • #14
                            Hi Glen, yep mine's an auto too. Dip stick was a bit tricky but just gave the mounting bracket a little tweak to correct the angle for the bolt. Lined up fine then. I noticed today the steering coupling to shaft joint just touches the pipes at a certain degree of turn and only under load possibly due to a slight twist of the engine under load. Probably wouldn't be an issue if it weren't for the body lift. It should be an easy fix though, just need to take a coulpe of mm off the chunky corner of the coupling tomorrow.
                            Drove well today, bit hard to tell much improvement as I was towing most of the day, but it sure sounds sweet now
                            Will be getting a dyno tune after fitting the high flow muffler to maximise the modification gains. Then back to work on the custom winch mount...yes it's a disease.
                            Cheers, Ben.

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                            • #15
                              Hi Glen,

                              How does it affect the off-road ability? In particular (as it's an auto) the steep descent engine braking? Typically extractors reduce back-pressure, which means you have to use the brakes more going down hills.....
                              David

                              2013 FJ Cruiser
                              265/75r17 Cooper ST Maxx, Rear locker/A-Trac/Crawl
                              Losi Comp Crawler for the really rough stuff

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