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  • Originally posted by Anth120playdo View Post
    Wow that's crazy. Did they both break the same?
    Exactly the same spots.
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    • Originally posted by Whitey View Post
      Hey MLC,

      Holy cripes, that is crazy that both struts snapped!

      Can you confirm these were 712 struts from Autocraft?

      I'm with Photoprado, can you elaborate on how this happened?

      Best

      Mark
      I will check, I have the strut and the part numbers etc are quite visible, after all they have only done 80K. I can confirm they were from Autocraft without a doubt.


      Originally posted by photoprado View Post
      I guess the main question is: When you encountered the snapped LHS strut on Googs track, did you check the other side?

      What would cause this breakage? Given the short extended length of the 712's and the weakest rebound valving of all the Bilstein struts in Whitey's Bilstein encyclopaedia, would the problem have been excessive topping out?
      We checked the other, it wasnt snapped but is was "distressed" with the pinched up rubber.
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      • Originally posted by MidLifeCrisis View Post
        I will check, I have the strut and the part numbers etc are quite visible, after all they have only done 80K. I can confirm they were from Autocraft without a doubt.
        Hey,

        Just to clarify, do you mean 80K = 80,000km??

        Best

        Mark
        2006 GXL petrol auto. ARB deluxe bar x3 HID IPF's, ARB alloy roofrack, ARB awning, BFG A/T, Safari snorkel, Piranha breathers, Pacemaker extractors, custom Ironman 45710FE 436-569mm with Dobinsons 350, custom Ironman 45682FE 383-618mm with Dobinsons 487, Firestone kevlar 60psi airbags, 30mm extended Roadsafe links, AMTS bashplate and recovery points, ABR Flyer with Powersonic AGM.

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        • Originally posted by Whitey View Post
          Hey,

          Just to clarify, do you mean 80K = 80,000km??

          Best


          Mark

          Yes Mark.
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          • 80k is a lot of punishment if you use it offroad a lot.
            Suspension specialists reccomended replacing struts/shocks at 80k for normal on road conditions.
            For the heavy users, it just depends how hard you treat them.
            Anyway Good work, never seen it b4.

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            • For stock suspension, yep.

              Billies should last way longer for nomal road conditions. I ran billies in a country rep car, 300,000km and good as new at the end. Dirt and bitumen all around Vic.
              2008 D4D M6 GXL [MT ATZ-P3][Whitey's Ironman 45710FE/45682FE+KTFR101H/Dob487][extended Roadsafe links][Polyairs][DBA T3/T2][amts diffdrop & recovery points][Tin175's stone guards][Bushskins BashPlate][ARB Sahara][IPF 900s][Snorkel][WindCheetah][MaxTrax][IC-440][Parrot Asteroid][ARB Fridge][Lifestyle 2nd Row Fridge Mount][ARB Compressor][Thumper][SandGrabbers][Cargo Barrier][Tigerz Awning][MCC Rear Bar]

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              • Originally posted by photoprado View Post
                For stock suspension, yep.

                Billies should last way longer for nomal road conditions. I ran billies in a country rep car, 300,000km and good as new at the end. Dirt and bitumen all around Vic.
                Wowee!!

                300,000km on any kind of suspension is exceptional!

                For the record, one of my 712 struts karked it after 40,000km.

                Bilstein monotubes should theoretically never lose their valving due to the floating piston design, but if it is impacted, strut will be dead pronto.

                Twin tubes I would be changing after no more than 80,000km however, as they contain springs which temper/soften over time and the valving will reduce, something like at least 30% reductions in valving forces.

                Best

                Mark
                2006 GXL petrol auto. ARB deluxe bar x3 HID IPF's, ARB alloy roofrack, ARB awning, BFG A/T, Safari snorkel, Piranha breathers, Pacemaker extractors, custom Ironman 45710FE 436-569mm with Dobinsons 350, custom Ironman 45682FE 383-618mm with Dobinsons 487, Firestone kevlar 60psi airbags, 30mm extended Roadsafe links, AMTS bashplate and recovery points, ABR Flyer with Powersonic AGM.

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                • Now you know why I am SO disappointed in my Prado Billies.

                  The car after that one was a city car, couldn't get Billies for it, went Koni. Too soft. Took them into topperformance and Bastien rebuilt them for me with sport valving. Car was gutless, but the suspension was really good after that. Bastien was an ex F1 mechanic.
                  2008 D4D M6 GXL [MT ATZ-P3][Whitey's Ironman 45710FE/45682FE+KTFR101H/Dob487][extended Roadsafe links][Polyairs][DBA T3/T2][amts diffdrop & recovery points][Tin175's stone guards][Bushskins BashPlate][ARB Sahara][IPF 900s][Snorkel][WindCheetah][MaxTrax][IC-440][Parrot Asteroid][ARB Fridge][Lifestyle 2nd Row Fridge Mount][ARB Compressor][Thumper][SandGrabbers][Cargo Barrier][Tigerz Awning][MCC Rear Bar]

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                  • Latest upgrade from CFC Fiberglass.
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                    • Very nice MLC. Quanta costa?
                      Dennis

                      Ag Nomad

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                      • Originally posted by boomer52 View Post
                        Very nice MLC. Quanta costa?
                        $375 including post. They are on Facebook under CFC Fiberglass.
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                        • What could possibly be left to do now
                          Marc, 2003 Grande V6, Just a Bit of Stuff Done..........Work in progress.
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                          • Originally posted by 1coolbanana View Post
                            What could possibly be left to do now

                            Only because you asked:

                            Replace airbags, install AMTS airbag spacer.
                            Weld up arms to correctly locate second row (replace seating) platform
                            Fridge slide for 78L engel and redesign drawers
                            Work out how to configure battery switch now I have a BCDC rather than the old redarc unit.
                            install winch isolator
                            aluminium backing to plates to prevent loss in big puddles.

                            plus a few other things.
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                            • Originally posted by MidLifeCrisis View Post
                              $375 including post. They are on Facebook under CFC Fiberglass.
                              what is Facebook?
                              Dennis

                              Ag Nomad

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                              • Originally posted by boomer52 View Post
                                what is Facebook?
                                Here you go: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=What+is+Facebook%3F&l=1
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