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    Re: Factory Inverter

    D4Dazz,

    If your comparing a 120 D4D with a 150D4D there is no difference.

    If you are able to run your fridge for two weeks off the batteries you are doing nothing wrong. You are a legend!

    120Watts is 120Watts! At 12 volts this would equate to a circuit current of 10A. At 220V the current
    in the circuit would be .545A

    It is better to run the fridge from 12V as the inverter and the 240V power supply in the fridge
    are not 100% efficient. Therefore battery power is wasted stepping the voltage up then down
    again.

    The problem with the factory outlets is they use thin gauge wire. This results in a voltage drop and
    loss of efficency. The current Instead of running your fridge is wasted as heat in the wiring loom.

    The bottom line though is, if your current system works well for you don't change it!

    Cheers

    LeighW
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    Re: Factory Inverter

    Thanks Leigh.

    The long term objective is to fit a dual battery system. In the meantime I wanted to use what is alreay fitted in the 150. And my 120 is the D4D and yes the 150 will be a deisel too.

    Thanks for the info.

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    Re: Factory Inverter

    I just came across this thread as I am in the process of getting a new Prado myself.

    I'm not so sure that using the 220v outlet on the Prado will be inefficient for an Engel Fridge. As I understand it, my Engel fridge ( and others may as well) has an inverter in it for conversion of the 12v current to 240v. A 220/240v supply is passed through unchanged. If you take the power from the outlet ( provided it is sufficient) there should be no further inefficiencies from voltage conversion than there would be by feeding 12v to the fridge.

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    factory inverter

    Hi guys,

    would it be possible to run a new wire from a 2nd battery to the inverter so it can be used while the vehicles not running?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruffy View Post
    Hi guys,

    would it be possible to run a new wire from a 2nd battery to the inverter so it can be used while the vehicles not running?
    All things are possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruffy View Post
    Hi guys,

    would it be possible to run a new wire from a 2nd battery to the inverter so it can be used while the vehicles not running?
    Yes, I have done exactly that on my car. Now I can use the 240 outlet at any time.

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    Prado 150 - Toyota inverter conversion kit

    I presume everyone is aware that for those who would like a simple 12 volt socket in the back, in place of the 220 volt unit, Toyota sell the parts for A$121.00. The 12 volt parts replace the 220 volt panel and the 12 volt wiring is already in place behind the 220 volt socket, so it is plug and play. Therefore there is no need to remove the side trim panel, the changeover can be easily carried out by simply prising out the 220 volt panel.

    Obviously the 12 volt socket remains at 10 amps as per the factory wiring but this is ample if you just want to run a fridge more reliably. I have converetd my Kakadu and it works perfectly.

    The parts needed will come from Japan (mine took only two weeks) and are Bezel Part Number 8553660040A0, Power outlet cover Part Number 8553535080A0 and Socket Part Number 8553042010. These are the part numbers for the tan trim, the A becomes B in the first two items for the grey trim.

    Just thought I would note this in case anyone is not aware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VXWesty View Post
    Yes, I have done exactly that on my car. Now I can use the 240 outlet at any time.

    VXWesty
    So where did you hook in to it ? Been thinking of doing this for a while. Only downside is all my aux wiring is down the passenger side. Can I hook in closer to the front ie fuse box ?

    On another point, any travel with the 240v usually results in the plug falling out.

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    on an older thread about the factory invertor, some people were using it to power their fridges and causing the invertor to fail, cant remember which thread it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbluedog View Post
    So where did you hook in to it ? Been thinking of doing this for a while. Only downside is all my aux wiring is down the passenger side. Can I hook in closer to the front ie fuse box ?

    On another point, any travel with the 240v usually results in the plug falling out.

    D.
    I ran a heavy gauge wire down the passenger side to a fuse box in the rear compartment. It then went to the trouble of running a new separately fused wire to the factory inverter.

    I guess you could find the location in the fuse box and re-route the power to it from a different source, but it gets a bit awkward finding that under the dash.

    With regard to the plug falling out... I run a short 1mtr extension cord the accessory being powered. The light weight of the extension cord plug hasn't yet fallen out of the socket while driving.

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    Have found this site full of useful info so will add my bit as well.

    Followed the info about buying the Toyota parts to change the 220v plug (from factory inverter) to a 12 v plug on my new GX. The 12v wire and plug were taped up out of reach thru the small panel opening so had to open the side panel along top and rear to access. Then tapped up 220v plug to stop potential rattle and now have original looking 12 v sig outlet. Waeco 25 litre fridge works on this OK as it did in similar setup in my previous 120 series.

    However I will be running new separate thicker cable back to battery via chassis rail and merit plug in this little panel while I have panel off for potential fridge upgrade. This new cable, plug and "black box" was purchased a while ago when I bought a thumper/blue apple battery.

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