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    I received a PM asking about my boost mods, I thought I'd share the answer with the forum.

    Hi Mick

    I read in the intercooler post that you have a manual boost controller on your 1kz which is set to 13psi. From memory the standard boost on the 1kz is around 8-9psi.

    I'm interested in this installation. Can you pass on any more info regarding what is involved in this mod and how effective it has been?

    Like you, my 1kz has a dtronic and beaudesert exhaust but standard boost at present.

    Many thanks

    Mark

    I have fitted a Turbotech manual boost controller as advertised here:


    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Turbotech-manual ... 240%3A1308

    This boost valve is not a run-of-the-mill bleed valve that simply vents pressure from the wastegate hose. Instead, it contains a check valve (a steel ball that is forced down onto a seat by a spring).

    Boost pressure enters through the bottom port of the controller and tries to push the ball off its seat. When there’s enough boost pressure for this to occur, boost air passes through and reaches the wastegate actuator. Boost pressure is then controlled.

    The advantages of this approach may not seem obvious at first. But compared to a bleed, it offers potentially superior boost consistency across a range of ambient temperatures and in different gears.

    This is because, unlike a bleed, this controller unit has some inbuilt intelligence. For example, in extremely hot conditions or in a low gear (where the engine will produce a relatively small volume of exhaust gas) the steel ball inside the valve body will stay closed as long as necessary until enough boost pressure is developed to lift it off its seat.
    The opposite also applies in extremely cold conditions or in a high gear (where the engine will produce a relatively large volume of exhaust gas) the steel ball will lift off its seat as soon as there’s enough pressure to do so.

    The Turbotech controller gives a very quick rate of boost rise due to the spring preload applied on the internal steel ball, Its impossible for any pressure to reach the wastegate actuator until there’s enough boost to lift the ball off its seat.

    Installation is very straightforward. Simply install it between the compressor outlet and wastegate actuator. Peak boost pressure can be varied using an adjustment bolt and locking nut. Turning the bolt clockwise increases preload on the spring which means greater boost pressure is required to lift the ball off its seat.

    A small hole in the valve body (called an "excess pressure valve") allows pressurised air to escape from between the controller and wastegate actuator following a boost event. This pressurised air would otherwise be trapped against the wastegate actuator and cause poor boost response.

    With the exhaust fitted I found boost went up from 10psi (9.7 by the Toyota spec) to around 11psi and I was happy to add a couple more psi and still sleep at night sound in the knowledge the engine can live with it.

    Some of the Surf guys are running up to 17psi but I would suggest that this is the limit for such a small turbo charger and pointless without adding more fuel.

    At 13psi, with the little extra fuel the Dtronic tips in, I think the engine is well within its limits. With only an extra 2 psi the performance gain is small but definitely noticeable (and for $30 its great bang for your buck). When I get time I’ll run the Prado on the dyno and see what the result is.

    Fit a boost and EGT (exhaust gas temperature) gauge before doing any modifications.

    Mick
    [CENTER][B][I][SIZE=1][COLOR=blue]1KZ-TE Turbo Diesel, 5 speed manual, 3.5 inch lift, 265/70/17 Mickey Thompson MTZ, D-Tronic chip, Boost controller, mandrel exhaust, dump pipe, modified intake, ARB steel bar, Magnum winch, Safari snorkel, rear drawers, half cargo barrier, dual batteries, Uniden UHF, Sat Nav, reverse camera, Magellan XL , Tjm bash plates, ARB alloy roof rack, rear telescopic work light and numerous other modifications!!!
    Now with 3BAR MAP sensor & 18PSI Boost![/COLOR][/SIZE][/I][/B][/CENTER]

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    Re: Boost controller

    mine is bog stock std with only a snorkel and std exhaust and im getting 12psi
    had an 03 gx 120 with some gear now got a 2013 bt 50 GT auto some ARB gear.

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    • #3
      Re: Boost controller

      Hi MickL,
      You could be on to a good thing here!
      Any chance of a couple of pics showing the placement of the boost controller between the compressor outlet and the wastegate actuator?
      Otherwise I'll cut the wrong hose and stuff it up for sure!
      Thanks,
      [b][color=#0080FF]Pat[/color][/b]

      [size=3]2004 GXL, Diesel[/size]

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      • #4
        Re: Boost controller

        Thanks alot for this thread Mick, and Mark for asking the Q. I have being thinking about this lately myself and have being looking at the ebay unit, so I may have to start working on the EGT & boost/vac guage that I have wanted to do since rebuilding the turbo.
        2000 Toyota Prado GXL- Gone, but not forgotten...
        '92 Landcruiser HDJ80 4"lift 33's
        '91 Surf LN130 coil sas, 4.8s, 35s
        '12 Jayco Eagle Outback

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        • #5
          Re: Boost controller

          No worries guys, I'll do some pics and more info over the weekend.

          Mick
          [CENTER][B][I][SIZE=1][COLOR=blue]1KZ-TE Turbo Diesel, 5 speed manual, 3.5 inch lift, 265/70/17 Mickey Thompson MTZ, D-Tronic chip, Boost controller, mandrel exhaust, dump pipe, modified intake, ARB steel bar, Magnum winch, Safari snorkel, rear drawers, half cargo barrier, dual batteries, Uniden UHF, Sat Nav, reverse camera, Magellan XL , Tjm bash plates, ARB alloy roof rack, rear telescopic work light and numerous other modifications!!!
          Now with 3BAR MAP sensor & 18PSI Boost![/COLOR][/SIZE][/I][/B][/CENTER]

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          • #6
            Re: Boost controller

            Thanks very much for the detailed explanation Mick. And here I was checking my inbox every day thinking you were being antisocial :lol:

            This sounds like a decent and well thought out mod for the 1KZ. Cheers for posting the details :wink:

            Cheers

            Mark

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            • #7
              Re: Boost controller

              Sorry Mark, I was going to PM you a link to this post. ops:

              Mick
              [CENTER][B][I][SIZE=1][COLOR=blue]1KZ-TE Turbo Diesel, 5 speed manual, 3.5 inch lift, 265/70/17 Mickey Thompson MTZ, D-Tronic chip, Boost controller, mandrel exhaust, dump pipe, modified intake, ARB steel bar, Magnum winch, Safari snorkel, rear drawers, half cargo barrier, dual batteries, Uniden UHF, Sat Nav, reverse camera, Magellan XL , Tjm bash plates, ARB alloy roof rack, rear telescopic work light and numerous other modifications!!!
              Now with 3BAR MAP sensor & 18PSI Boost![/COLOR][/SIZE][/I][/B][/CENTER]

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              • #8
                Re: Boost controller

                To those that PM'd about pictures etc I still working on it!!! should be up tomorrow


                Mick
                [CENTER][B][I][SIZE=1][COLOR=blue]1KZ-TE Turbo Diesel, 5 speed manual, 3.5 inch lift, 265/70/17 Mickey Thompson MTZ, D-Tronic chip, Boost controller, mandrel exhaust, dump pipe, modified intake, ARB steel bar, Magnum winch, Safari snorkel, rear drawers, half cargo barrier, dual batteries, Uniden UHF, Sat Nav, reverse camera, Magellan XL , Tjm bash plates, ARB alloy roof rack, rear telescopic work light and numerous other modifications!!!
                Now with 3BAR MAP sensor & 18PSI Boost![/COLOR][/SIZE][/I][/B][/CENTER]

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                • #9
                  Re: Boost controller

                  Mick

                  My 1KZ-TE is bog standard. Is there anything to be gained by installing this device without installing some sort of performance chip and/or exhaust?

                  Cheers

                  Snappa
                  '06 RV 1KZ-TE, BFG AT's LT 265/70/17 (2nd set), Hilux washer jets, Bosch Aero Wipers, Nokia Bluetooth car kit, Safari Snorkel, 12v ARB Portable Compressor, Hi-lift jack & winch kit, Unifilter Reusable Airfilter, DP Chip, ProVent 200

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                  • #10
                    Re: Boost controller

                    My 1KZ-TE is bog standard. Is there anything to be gained by installing this device without installing some sort of performance chip and/or exhaust?
                    There is a small gain to be had in the fact that peak boost comes on faster due to the check valve stopping waste gate creep.(jurys out on how much)

                    Raising the peak boost level will do nothing without adding extra fuel to the mix. Having said that, I had my Prado on a dyno when new and before mods. It was found to be running slighty richer than "ideal", so maybe a small boost lift would have make a few extra kilowatts. When the exhaust/dump pipe were fitted the fueling was closer to the mark due to increased air flows.

                    In my case I have a Dtronic fitted as well. It seems to over fuel a little as I have made a small gain by adding 2-3 psi to the peak boost. In my experimenting I have wound the boost up to 1 bar (14.7psi) and found no further performance gain so to make further gains I would have to increase the amount of fuel being added by either adjusting the pump (primative as it's right across the rev range, not just under boost conditions) or getting the chip re-written (ideal but expensive)

                    I should point out I have not had the car dyno'd with either the Dtronic or boost controller mods at this stage. It's been bum in seat testing so don't take it as gospel.

                    Mick
                    [CENTER][B][I][SIZE=1][COLOR=blue]1KZ-TE Turbo Diesel, 5 speed manual, 3.5 inch lift, 265/70/17 Mickey Thompson MTZ, D-Tronic chip, Boost controller, mandrel exhaust, dump pipe, modified intake, ARB steel bar, Magnum winch, Safari snorkel, rear drawers, half cargo barrier, dual batteries, Uniden UHF, Sat Nav, reverse camera, Magellan XL , Tjm bash plates, ARB alloy roof rack, rear telescopic work light and numerous other modifications!!!
                    Now with 3BAR MAP sensor & 18PSI Boost![/COLOR][/SIZE][/I][/B][/CENTER]

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                    • #11
                      Re: Boost controller

                      Sorry about the delay in posting pictures... I've had IT problems :roll:

                      The boost controller gets fitted in the hose that runs between the turbo output side and the wastegate actuator. As you can see by the first picture it's almost impossible to get a photo that show it clearly.

                      To get to the hose you have to remove the turbo to intercooler pipe, rocker cover breather hose and the manifold heat shield. You also need small fingers or needle nose pliers as it's still tight access (only room for one hand)


                      I have mounted the controller well up high, cabled tied to the side of the airbox. This is because I'm still experimenting with the ideal set up for me. Later on I will move it to somewhere out of sight. (That's 6mm ID hose BTW)

                      The photo of the turbo is NOT off a Prado but clearly shows the hose and wastegate actuator.











                      Mick
                      [CENTER][B][I][SIZE=1][COLOR=blue]1KZ-TE Turbo Diesel, 5 speed manual, 3.5 inch lift, 265/70/17 Mickey Thompson MTZ, D-Tronic chip, Boost controller, mandrel exhaust, dump pipe, modified intake, ARB steel bar, Magnum winch, Safari snorkel, rear drawers, half cargo barrier, dual batteries, Uniden UHF, Sat Nav, reverse camera, Magellan XL , Tjm bash plates, ARB alloy roof rack, rear telescopic work light and numerous other modifications!!!
                      Now with 3BAR MAP sensor & 18PSI Boost![/COLOR][/SIZE][/I][/B][/CENTER]

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                      • #12
                        Re: Boost controller (1kz only)

                        Just like to point out that for those of you with D4D's this modification does NOT apply.

                        The D4D turbo is a variable vane unit and there is no wastegate or actuator.

                        Boost is controlled by changing the angle of the vanes, this is done by a stepper motor controlled by the ECU.

                        Lifting the peak boost level can only be done via a chip/piggy back computer such as the ChipTorque Xede electronic intercepter.
                        Not sure what the likes of Dtronic offer.


                        Mick
                        [CENTER][B][I][SIZE=1][COLOR=blue]1KZ-TE Turbo Diesel, 5 speed manual, 3.5 inch lift, 265/70/17 Mickey Thompson MTZ, D-Tronic chip, Boost controller, mandrel exhaust, dump pipe, modified intake, ARB steel bar, Magnum winch, Safari snorkel, rear drawers, half cargo barrier, dual batteries, Uniden UHF, Sat Nav, reverse camera, Magellan XL , Tjm bash plates, ARB alloy roof rack, rear telescopic work light and numerous other modifications!!!
                        Now with 3BAR MAP sensor & 18PSI Boost![/COLOR][/SIZE][/I][/B][/CENTER]

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                        • #13
                          Re: Boost controller (1kz only)

                          Hi MickL,
                          Thanks for going to the trouble of taking the pics - lots of help.
                          [b][color=#0080FF]Pat[/color][/b]

                          [size=3]2004 GXL, Diesel[/size]

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                          • #14
                            Re: Boost controller (1kz only)

                            Well tonight i fitted up my boost controller....oh what fun in 100 per cent humidity....

                            firstly big thanks to Mick L for the thread and the expertise in these areas...made my job easy...

                            well started by pulling the engine to pieces






                            next was a real pain as if you didnt have tiny fingers( i dont ), you were in for a hell of a time...

                            time to connect new hose to the wastgate pie and off the turbo....it took ages but got it done !!!





                            time to put it all back together...
                            meat meets metal.....metal wins....told you it was tight in there!!!!



                            bought one of these from the states a while back and has improved vacum and i think it has been working a treat for the past 6 months...



                            this is the boost controller...top quality and excellent warranty and service ..made in melbourne ..turbo tech its called..



                            this is all the bits back on...



                            and now with boost controller...not a permanent spot just trial for now...



                            will do all the tests 2morrow..

                            cheers
                            Featured - issue 140 Australian 4wd Action.
                            -issue 52 Modified 4wds .
                            Locked ,Lifted, boosted Brut---"Pradzilla".
                            [IMG]http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff268/bigfryy/_0481154045-2.jpg[/IMG]

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                            • #15
                              Re: Boost controller (1kz only)

                              :mrgreen:
                              Featured - issue 140 Australian 4wd Action.
                              -issue 52 Modified 4wds .
                              Locked ,Lifted, boosted Brut---"Pradzilla".
                              [IMG]http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff268/bigfryy/_0481154045-2.jpg[/IMG]

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