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  • Lightforce Blitz 240 HID Conversion build up thread.

    Well as the title says this will be my Blitz 240 conversion thread complete with pics. My conversion kit arrived this morning, yes our parcel contractor seems to only deliver to us on Sundays, I should have received it last thursday.

    I am well on my way to converting the first 240, I have installed the globe adapter to place the H3 HID globe at the right focal point for the reflector.
    I have to wait till tomorrow to get the right cable gland to seal the back of the globe housing. It needs an M25 gland to keep it water tight.

    The kit seems to be of reasonable quality and with the required globe adapters it came to $198.00 delivered. There are not too many people doing conversions for the Lightforce lights so I hope that these turn out okay. It is a 55W 5000K kit from an Aussie seller with 12 month warranty on parts.

    I will add photos to this thread soon.
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  • #2
    Can't wait to see the write up Mav. I'm interested in the Lighty 240's, and since seeing the pics of the HID's on Team Piggy's rally car, I want to get the conversion done when I get mine.

    Cheers,
    AJ
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    • #3
      Re: Lightforce Blitz 240 HID Conversion build up thread.

      Originally posted by mav
      I will add photos to this thread soon.
      I am literally holding my breathe! Did you choose 5000k for any reason? 6000k is the norm, just curious?

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      • #4
        Re: Lightforce Blitz 240 HID Conversion build up thread.

        Originally posted by MattWhite
        Originally posted by mav
        I will add photos to this thread soon.
        I am literally holding my breathe! Did you choose 5000k for any reason? 6000k is the norm, just curious?
        Yes Matt I wanted 5000 K to match the Fat boy IPF globes I put into the headlights which are also 5000 K.

        The higher you go the less the penetration of light. I think 5000 K gives the best overall performance for what I want to achieve.
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        • #5
          Okay here are some starter pics of the kit and adapter housing:



          The Kit as sent by Bushy. The globes have a ceramic base and not plastic as is usual with the cheaper kits on ebay. Bushy readily admits they are not the top of the line kit but they are certainly not bottom of the ladder either. It suites my purpose and the parts and warrantied for 12 months.





          Close up of the ballast.




          Required H3 adapter plate, comes with the kit.



          Adapter installed front elevation.



          Adapter installed in lightforce housing, side elevation
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          • #6
            Lookin good mav, you'll send pine gap into a frenzy when you drive past there at night!
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            • #7
              That looks like the generic EBAY HID kit, there is dozens the same and just rebadged with different stickers.

              They work fine. I have 1.5 years on one of mine now, with not one issue.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Team Piggy
                That looks like the generic EBAY HID kit, there is dozens the same and just rebadged with different stickers.

                They work fine. I have 1.5 years on one of mine now, with not one issue.
                Lets face it, most of these kits if not all orginate in China. I would expect that a good many businesses rebadge the same generic kit.

                I had a quick look on ebay for this particular kit but it is not on there at the moment, however they are being sold on Amazon.com for around US$150.

                All told I am happy with the price and service from Bushy.
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                • #9
                  Well I have completed the conversion on one of the spotties and I will do the other one tomorrow. It is a bit more fiddly than I expected but once it is done who cares right?

                  I did not follow Bushy's instruction to the letter as I found that using the cable gland was a major pain in the butt trying to get it to fit etc so I simply used the foam rubber packing that the HID globes come with and used some inert silicon to make it water tight.

                  I only did one today as I want to go out and take some comparison shots tonight I will use a bit of cardboard to cover each spottie in turn.

                  I tested the one I installed and it came on and functioned normally, finding a place to mount the ballast was a right pain but I managed to come up with a workable solution. The problem is the HT lead is pretty short and certainly not long enough to mount the ballast up in the engine bay. I am pretty confident that the connections are water tight and I will re-inforce that with some silcon compound to make very sure.

                  Anyway I will post some photos later tonight.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mav

                    finding a place to mount the ballast was a right pian but I managed to come up with a workable solution. The problem is the HT lead is pretty short and certainly not long enough to mount the ballast up in the engine bay. I am pretty confident that the connections are water tight and I will re-inforce that with some silcon compound to make very sure.

                    Anyway I will post some photos later tonight.
                    this is the thought i had and have so far not done the conversion
                    because of the ballast placement.
                    be good to see where you mounted the ballasts, so i can get more ideas.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by damonat
                      Originally posted by mav

                      finding a place to mount the ballast was a right pian but I managed to come up with a workable solution. The problem is the HT lead is pretty short and certainly not long enough to mount the ballast up in the engine bay. I am pretty confident that the connections are water tight and I will re-inforce that with some silcon compound to make very sure.

                      Anyway I will post some photos later tonight.
                      this is the thought i had and have so far not done the conversion
                      because of the ballast placement.
                      be good to see where you mounted the ballasts, so i can get more ideas.
                      I will post some photos of the fit out tomorrow mate, that should give you some ideas.
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                      • #12
                        Well I just went out to see if there would be any discernable difference between my old halogen lightforce and new HID lightforce. Can you say OMFG!!!!!. :shock: :shock:

                        Here are some comparison photos, they are the best I could do I covered one spottie up at a time to take the individual performance shots. Please note that the HID is a straight pencil beam spottie and the halogen has a spread spot filter attached to it which is the reason why you will see a bit more side light on the halogen.

                        Okay the first shot is the halogen by itself:



                        Now the HID by itself:



                        The next is both the HID and halogen together:



                        Now a front on shot to show the colour temp difference, the HID is rated at 5000K and I am guessing that the halogen is down nearer to 3000K.





                        So then I went for a drive to find a different location to run the similar test. Here are the results:

                        The first three shots are with both spotties on, I have just zoomed the photo a bit more in the last two shots, you can clearly see the HID white light from the yellow light of the halogen.







                        The next shot is with the halogen only again it has a spread spot filter on it, sorry for the blurriness but I forgot to take my tripod.



                        The last one is with the HID only, again sorry for the blurriness.



                        Tomorrow I will complete the upgrade of the other spottie and then I will head out and take some more comparison shots at the same locations.

                        I am so impressed with the HID upgrade of the one spottie it really is chalk and cheese. I took a photo of the two beams against my fence when I got home here it is:

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                        • #13
                          The ballasts are waterproof and the connections are too. A lot of people used to just mount them in the bullbar, when we used to sell them a few years ago and some of them would sit in a river with the lights on with no problems. I would not put silicon on the connections if it were me.

                          I used to have 100's of 1m extension cables so that you could mount the ballasts under the bonnet, but not sure if I still have any. After them sitting around for a year or 2 I might have "cleaned up" If anyone is interested I will have a look around and see if you like. You are welcome to them
                          You cannot go much longer than a metre or so as then sometimes the light will not come on every time.

                          cheers
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                          • #14
                            I dont know, maybe its just me. But i am not seeing a major difference other than the colour of the light, and perhaps an aiming variable.

                            I guess i would need to see them in the flesh to be convinced of the value.
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                            • #15
                              Maybe you are not looking in the distance.....
                              Look at the tree(bush) in the HID one. It is very brightly lit up. In the standard one you cannot even see there is a tree there
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