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  • [QUOTE=glen_ep;514729]I really don't understand why you are thinking this way. Petrol & diesel is available all over the country.

    Diesels with trailers in the outback commonly use well over 20L/100km so you'll be taking extra fuel just as the petrol guys do... and when you arrive at the next station, you'll find a petrol pump right besides the diesel...." END QUOTE

    REALLY - I have just completed 14,848 kms towing a 1.3 tonne camper trailer and averaged 13l/100 kms. Worst I got was 16 when in the Flinders Ranges and in 4x4 mode and sometimes 15 when driving above 115 km in the NT. Best I got was a consistent 12.7
    Terry
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    • This really has now become a pointless discussion Glen, as you are taking your argument to the absurd end of the spectrum to justify a comment that a 20 something year old made that is equally absurd.

      But if you must have a dinky di 100% example of why it is absolutely necessary that we have diesels in Australia, well I am going to drive one in the morning, its called a truck, and there isn't a petrol powered engine small enough and powerful enough with enough torque to pull the 60+ tonne down the road that I will have.

      I could offer more examples, even in the 4wd world, but I don't think your interested in listening! Probably because you are a 20 something year old with a petrol 4wd................

      End of discussion from me, as I said pointless to continue.

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      • Let's get this back to the funny things we see
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        • Good call VK!


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          • Originally posted by OldGreyFart View Post
            REALLY - I have just completed 14,848 kms towing a 1.3 tonne camper trailer and averaged 13l/100 kms. Worst I got was 16 when in the Flinders Ranges and in 4x4 mode and sometimes 15 when driving above 115 km in the NT. Best I got was a consistent 12.7
            You've taken my response a little out of context, as it was in response to Andrews statement: "1300km through outback tracks and sand dunes with no fuel stops..". If the Flinders Ranges was the hardest tracks you drove then your economy results isn't really comparable to sand dunes.


            Originally posted by AJ120 View Post
            This really has now become a pointless discussion Glen, as you are taking your argument to the absurd end of the spectrum to justify a comment that a 20 something year old made that is equally absurd.

            But if you must have a dinky di 100% example of why it is absolutely necessary that we have diesels in Australia, well I am going to drive one in the morning, its called a truck, and there isn't a petrol powered engine small enough and powerful enough with enough torque to pull the 60+ tonne down the road that I will have.

            I could offer more examples, even in the 4wd world, but I don't think your interested in listening! Probably because you are a 20 something year old with a petrol 4wd................

            End of discussion from me, as I said pointless to continue.

            Cheers Andrew
            It's only pointless because you're not able to comprehend what you are reading. I asked for an example of why a diesel **4WD** is required, ie, where can a diesel 4wd go in Australia where a petrol cannot - not whether we need diesel fuel in this country at all. Obviously diesel fuel is required for trucks and other heavy machinery, as indicated in my previous post. Try to read a little more carefully.

            Of course I'm interested in listening. Unlike your arrogant self, my mind is open to different opinions as long as there's some logic behind it!

            Finally, I'm well past my 20's, but that doesn't give me the right to insult younger generations like you and others are doing here.
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            • Spotted this "unusual" ute this afternoon...



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              • Originally posted by craigm View Post
                Spotted this "unusual" ute this afternoon...
                Looks like a backyard ghetto attempt at the Stantech/Brabus Range Rover pickup... http://www.carscoops.com/2015/04/sta...er-pickup.html
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                • Originally posted by glen_ep View Post
                  Diesels with trailers in the outback commonly use well over 20L/100km
                  I dont know where you got those figures from, most of the diesel towing figures i have seen are under that......

                  I get 14L/100km pulling 1.5T worth of horse float (inc 2x horses)

                  There are also stories of catalytic converters setting fire to petrols due to build up of spinifex etc.

                  But like all have said, comes down to what you do and what you need from your vehicle, there is a place and "need" for both.

                  Blakmoth was simply stating that the pimply face young punks were showing their age with such a misinformed statement

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                  • Strong but stubborn. Leaks. Noisy engine, and slightly battered body. Can only be a....

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                            • Posted on Herald Sun comments page relating to current AFL debate:

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                              • Don't try buying petrol at aboriginal communities or servos in close proximity on the central highway from W.A. to N.T.
                                The only petrol available is Opal and if they are out of that Avgas. (neither of these can be sniffed for a high)
                                It is also an offence to carry petrol in containers though these areas, only the fuel in your vehicle tanks.
                                Most manufactures recommend no more than one tank of Opal before refilling with normal unleaded, as for Avgas I'd use something like Flashlube with it.

                                Terry
                                Perth

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