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  • Ah gotcha on the same page now. Yeah, I've got all that in place so no dramas there. Cheers

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    • Also if you go too high without an extended strut you have little down travel, which will cause handling issues and possible strut damage due to it topping out all the time.

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      • I misread and thought of it as 'Never exceed 800mm...ever.'. Thought it was something to do with centre of gravity, I was on a totally different wavelength.

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        • Just thought I'd add my measurements here for future reference more than anything.
          GXL, V6, Steel ARB non-winch bar, 3rd row seats removed, near full fuel tanks. Everything else stock as far as weight goes.
          All suspension components stock except for the rear shocks which are KYB Excel G's. I think the previous owner used it for towing a bit and hence the upgraded rear shocks.
          FL: 730
          FR: 725
          RL: 770
          RR: 760
          As of 14/1/15 with 1 tank empty and 1 tank half empty (or half full).
          FL: 730
          FR: 725
          RL: 775
          RR: 770

          As of 6/7/16- 1.5 tanks of fuel
          FL: 722
          FR: 723
          RL: 770
          RR: 765
          BiLLz0r
          Advanced Member
          Last edited by BiLLz0r; 06-07-2016, 07:22 PM.
          2007 GXL V6 - ARB Bullbar with LED lights, snorkel, extractors, 2 1/4" dual exhaust, K&N filter, dimpled/slotted rotors, headrest dvd players, Ebay Satnav/reverse camera, GME 3100TX, Tigerz11 Side awning on custom brackets with Maxtrax mounts, 300W Invertor, ARB Underbody protection, Lightbar and STZ 265/70 tyres.
          Wish list in order I'll get them: Sliders, 2" lift, E-locker, Winch bar with winch.

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          • Adding my Measurements.

            Lots of weight up front (ARB Steel Bar, Dual Batt, Winch) on a 2008 D4D
            No 3rd Row Seats but Large Recovery Bag + High Lift in the rear
            I have not measured since the steel sliders but will edit this post when I do this afternoon.


            810mm front
            830mm rear


            Part numbers are as follows

            FRONT
            Shock: Bilstein F4-BES-A712-M2
            Spring: Dobinson C59-352

            REAR
            Shock: Bilstein 24-238830
            Spring: Dobinson C59-325

            this is with my air bags at 5psi

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            • Originally posted by mjrandom View Post
              CV angles. Around 800 the CVs are pretty much the same angle as standard with the exception that the front drive shafts run uphill rather than down. More than 800 you should seriously consider a diff drop too.
              I was thinking off getting the diff drop kit is that all I will need and should I get ext sway bar link
              04 grande, bilstein A712 &A713 kings spring , 3 inch exhaust chip it chip, XGT lightforce, 1 x lightbar, Sov Bar, Tigerz11 Grande winch with rope, Oricom UHF.

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              • Hi Hugo,

                I have similar weights than you up front (ARB Steel Bar, 21kg Dual Batt, Winch (Rope), ARB UVP, ARB air, Spotties, AJ120 Sliders, Rhino Pioneer Platform rack) but i'm going for the below combo, gets installed Tuesday next week on my 120:

                Billies : BE5A712 and 713's
                Dobinsons : C59-327 (Rear) and C59-302 (Front)
                FireStone bags in the back.

                Question, what setting on the front shock did you use? probably the bottom or middle clip...

                Cheers,
                Jamie
                2007 Update 120 D4D, GXL Auto Option Pack 1 - ARB winch bar, ARB UVP, ARB tradesman rack, 2" OME, Safari Snorkel, HR towbar, Tigerz11 12000lb Grande, IPF 900 Extreme, W602C, Hilux Scoop
                My Build [url]http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?28720-Jamie-s-Prado-120-D4D[/url]

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                • Originally posted by jamieprado View Post
                  Hi Hugo,

                  I have similar weights than you up front (ARB Steel Bar, 21kg Dual Batt, Winch (Rope), ARB UVP, ARB air, Spotties, AJ120 Sliders, Rhino Pioneer Platform rack) but i'm going for the below combo, gets installed Tuesday next week on my 120:

                  Billies : BE5A712 and 713's
                  Dobinsons : C59-327 (Rear) and C59-302 (Front)
                  FireStone bags in the back.

                  Question, what setting on the front shock did you use? probably the bottom or middle clip...

                  Cheers,
                  Jamie
                  I'd suggest 314 in the front. On bottom clip if you are happy with 40+mm

                  302 on the top cog will settle to a 40mm lift.

                  Also depending what your main use is, as u are putting bags in the rear, 325 will give a nicer ride unloaded.

                  I might be wrong, but maybe double check, as this is what I have found on customers vehicles in the past.

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                  • Thanks ####,

                    Do you think I'll need a diff drop gong that way (40mm+).

                    Curious because my ARB UVP won't allow for a diff drop, so I'd also be looking at new plates...

                    I haven't read about many 120's breaking CV's at least not on P.P.

                    Cheers,
                    Jamie
                    2007 Update 120 D4D, GXL Auto Option Pack 1 - ARB winch bar, ARB UVP, ARB tradesman rack, 2" OME, Safari Snorkel, HR towbar, Tigerz11 12000lb Grande, IPF 900 Extreme, W602C, Hilux Scoop
                    My Build [url]http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?28720-Jamie-s-Prado-120-D4D[/url]

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                    • Chucking in my measurements.
                      Code:
                                       [B]Brand     Model            Free Length     Spring Rate
                      
                      Parts & Specs:
                      
                      Front Coil:     Lovells   TFR-118EHD    345              1125
                      Rear Coil:      Lovells   TRR-119HD    400            321
                      
                                       [B]Brand     Model     Opened    Closed  Travel[/B]
                      Front Strut:    Bilstein  BE5-A712     552      427    125
                      Rear Shock:     Bilstein  B46-1478      592     381    211
                      [/B]Weighty Mods: ARB winch Bar, 12,000lb winch w/rope, dual batts, air compressor, amts bash plate, ATS steel sidesteps, steel tradesman style roof rack, rear drawers, 60l Waeco.

                      Measurements when fitted in 2011:

                      Code:
                      [COLOR=#333333]
                      [B][U]mm's:    Stock    Lifted    Diff[/U][/B]
                      LF    735    810    75
                      RF    740    815    75
                      LR    740    835    95
                      RR    745    840    95[/COLOR]


                      Measurements now:

                      Code:
                      [B][U]mm's:    Stock    Sept 14[/U][/B]
                      LF    735    790
                      RF    740    790    
                      LR    740    830    
                      RR    745    830    [COLOR=#333333]
                      (All taken from bottom of rim to bottom of guard)[/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#333333]NB. Front Bilstein strut circlip is in middle position.[/COLOR]
                      After a couple of new tyres and rotation/balance the truck is pulling left and have had 2 places have a shot at it now.
                      Need to find someone in Melbourne's East that can get this thing right again.
                      Axewell
                      Junior Member
                      Last edited by Axewell; 28-09-2014, 08:16 PM.
                      2008 V6 GXL 120 | Bilstein & Lovells 2" Lift | Mickey Thompson Baja ATZ 4-Rib (265/70/17) | ARB Winch Bar | Tigerz11 Winch | Cobra HIDs | Airtec Snorkel | Dual Bats | Dept of Interior Rear Drawers | Waeco 60ltr | ARB Air Compressor | Steel Tradesman Rack | ATS Rocksliders | amts Bashplates/Diff Drop/wheel spacer

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                      • Originally posted by jamieprado View Post
                        Thanks ####,

                        Do you think I'll need a diff drop gong that way (40mm+).

                        Curious because my ARB UVP won't allow for a diff drop, so I'd also be looking at new plates...

                        I haven't read about many 120's breaking CV's at least not on P.P.

                        Cheers,
                        Jamie
                        No diff drop required.

                        Diff drop is more to do with travel, not height. The more full extension travel you have on any c/v the greater the angle & risk of damage.
                        Hiluxes break them much more, because more travel.

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                        • Purchased from Suzukisuper ebay
                          tough dog foam cell shocks and +50mm HD superking springs
                          before lift
                          front- 720mm
                          rear- 780mm
                          after lift
                          front- 770mm
                          rear - 840mm
                          I have Arb steel bar with 12000lb tigerz11 winch & bash plates
                          Just gone to second tank about 500 km since fitting

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                          • OK, so she went in yesterday and got the suspension fitted by Dobinsons. Got home and noticed a leaky boot, damn.

                            Billies : BE5A712 and 713's
                            Dobinsons : C59-327 (Rear) and C59-314 (Front)
                            Firestone Ride-Rite 4107 Coil-Rite; Air Helper Spring Kit

                            Measurements:
                            FL=814 – FR=811
                            RL=843 – RR=840

                            I had to fit the suspension before my bar and winch due to time constraints. The only extra weight I have on this Stock Prado is my 21KG dual battery. Figures are pretty high but I expect a significant drop once I fit all my gear within the next 3 weeks, ready for my High Country trip on the 31st. Even though I haven't fitted all my gear yet I would not expect leaking CV boots with the strut/spring combo I have chosen.

                            It's going back to Dobinsons on Thursday get checked out.

                            Also note, CV angles do not look excessive… maybe it was a loose clamp on the boot?





                            2007 Update 120 D4D, GXL Auto Option Pack 1 - ARB winch bar, ARB UVP, ARB tradesman rack, 2" OME, Safari Snorkel, HR towbar, Tigerz11 12000lb Grande, IPF 900 Extreme, W602C, Hilux Scoop
                            My Build [url]http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?28720-Jamie-s-Prado-120-D4D[/url]

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                            • Jamie,

                              They have over extended the cv shafts during the install. It seems their method of install sometimes cause the CV boots to dislodge from its original position.

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                              • Originally posted by JEEPETR View Post
                                after lift
                                front- 770mm
                                rear - 840mm
                                The front is a bit low (about 1") and the rear is a bit high (check how much droop that's left)

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