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  • HID Upgrade pictures for 120 Headlights

    *Split from the Fatboy globe thread as it is under HID testing really*

    Fitted out one side of the prado with HID plasma Xenons tonight as a trial.

    Definiently more light, but also discovered a few things that need addressing.
    1:
    The prado appears to run Lo beam and when you flick to HI-Beam it runs Both HI & Lo beams at once giving a greater fill on the short range.
    With HID you lose the Lo beams when you change to HI and as a result a slight amount of close in fill. (Not a real big issue)

    2:
    The HID kits they are selling around the place and classed as "Bi-Xenon" are in fact classed as a H4-3 (Mechanical Xenon HI/LO), they use a solenoid to pull the globe back/forward to adjust for hi-lo beam positions in the reflector.
    A True Bi-Xenon uses 2 Xenon HID tubes a Hi and a Lo, these are not easy to find is Aust. I am looking for some sets in China now as these would be the ultimate light for the standard headlights!

    3:
    The Prado appears to use a funny switching mechanism, which requires a bit of fiddling around to get the HID setup (wiring loom) to switch and work properly.

    4:
    More a plus, the Headlight itself runs heaps cooler with the HID in it, about 20 degrees from the testing we did (exterior of glass/plastic).

    5:
    The solenoids that do the Hi/Lo switch are quite *thunky* when they engage. (Not a big issue). True Bi-Xenons wont have this issue.

    Will post pics tomorrow when I get a chance, the light is certainly a lot better than the fatboys, but there is still a bit of an annoying cutoff on the drivers side.

  • #2
    Thanks Piggy - looks like you know your HID stuff intimately.

    Stops us getting ripped off by the increasing number of the Xenon fly-by-nite sellers out there...

    Look forward to hearing more (and seeing the pics) as you go!

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    • #3
      I will start a new thread on the HID in a bit in anticipation of the maybe upcoming technical section

      Per Slads question HID BI Xenon has a smaller back on it and will fit in easier than the original bulbs! (Less protrusion).

      Mechanical Xenon protrudes a bit, all of these details I am giving currently relate to mechanical Xenons until Iget the True Bi-Xenons from China.

      HID (H4-3) Mechanical Xenon shown here. (This uses a solenoid to push/pull the globe into Hi/Lo position).


      Fitted to Drivers side light.


      And I know your all gonna ask so heres the difference to a Fatboy.

      Now one of the issues I have noticed is some bleed through of the Hi Beam Slot * See note on pic 1* on lo beam, you can see this on the HID (Right side) above the normal low beam. (Looks like a yellow-white oblong rectangle).
      I was worried about this blinding other drivers, but have tested extensively doing walk & drive by's on the piggy test road :roll: and it is not an issue unless your directly in front and within 15-20 feet...
      As you can see it goes up at a pretty sharp angle and is higher than other drivers within 10 feet of the car.

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      • #4
        Lighting onto road. (Lo Beam)

        Conditions, Clear night, Street light 4 mtrs to RHS of front corner of car. Good street lighting on road.

        IPF Fatboy Lo Beam (Left light only) Roughly 3500 K


        HID Lo Beam (Right light only) 6000K


        Fatboy & HID Lo Beam.

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        • #5
          crikey that's a significant difference!

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          • #6
            Fatboy vs HID lo/hi.

            Fatboy Lo-beam.


            Fatboy Hi-beam.


            Fatboy/HID Lo-beam.


            Fatboy/HID Hi-beam.


            Notice as per my note on previous post.
            With HID Lo Beam is moved to become Hi Beam, hence not as much in close coverage, evident in last pic.
            The lines on the roller door allow you to easily see the different spreads.


            I am pretty adamant that fitting of HID will also need a good manual headlight readjustment to get good road coverage. (My Drivers side is a bit too far to the right currently trying to fill that damn black spot!)

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            • #7
              Hey TP, mind if i ask where from and how many $$$'s for the set?

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              • #8
                Some factory in China and about $200.(AUD)

                I am (maybe) looking at bringing in a bunch of HID stuff in the near future. Am just testing a bunch of kits out currently.

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                • #9
                  Wow, Piggy - that's pretty sharp pricing for real bi-xenon.

                  Way to go! - hope the testing works out fine.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Grandeman
                    Wow, Piggy - that's pretty sharp pricing for real bi-xenon.
                    Should have noted, that is H4-3 (Mechanical Bi-Xenon) as shown in the pics.

                    Real Bi-Xenon (H4-4) (Two x HID globes in one housing) will be a bit dearer, Still to test them as of yet.

                    HID's take about 10 seconds to come to full brightness, they are OK at startup but need time to become super bright, not sure how this will work on the HI/LO bi-xenon (H4-4, twin tubes).

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Team Piggy
                      Originally posted by Grandeman
                      Wow, Piggy - that's pretty sharp pricing for real bi-xenon.
                      Should have noted, that is H4-3 (Mechanical Bi-Xenon) as shown in the pics.

                      Real Bi-Xenon (H4-4) (Two x HID globes in one housing) will be a bit dearer, Still to test them as of yet.

                      HID's take about 10 seconds to come to full brightness, they are OK at startup but need time to become super bright, not sure how this will work on the HI/LO bi-xenon (H4-4, twin tubes).
                      Look forward to seeing how they go!

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                      • #12
                        Piggy,

                        Any idea if those will fit into Prado?

                        http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Xenon-Light-Hid- ... dZViewItem
                        [color=blue][url=http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?12128-2004-120-GXL-V6-Petrol-Buildup-*Warning-Picture-Heavy!*&highlight=picture+heavy][b]My Prado Buildiup Since 2004[/b][/url][/color]
                        [b]2004 120 GXL V6 4sp Auto D694 LTs and MTRs with Kevlar (best of both worlds )[/b]

                        [url=http://www.fuelly.com/driver/lc120man/prado][img]http://www.fuelly.com/smallsig-metric/48063.png[/img][/url]

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                        • #13
                          They would in H4 but will be low beam only. You need H4-3 or H4-4 globes to get Hi/Lo beams.

                          H4-3 = Slider style Hi/Lo

                          H4-4 = True dual HID hi/Lo (4 ballast needed)

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Team Piggy
                            They would in H4 but will be low beam only. You need H4-3 or H4-4 globes to get Hi/Lo beams.

                            H4-3 = Slider style Hi/Lo

                            H4-4 = True dual HID hi/Lo (4 ballast needed)

                            Thanks,

                            They got H4-3 ones as well
                            http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Xenon-Light-HID- ... dZViewItem

                            Might give them a go...
                            [color=blue][url=http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?12128-2004-120-GXL-V6-Petrol-Buildup-*Warning-Picture-Heavy!*&highlight=picture+heavy][b]My Prado Buildiup Since 2004[/b][/url][/color]
                            [b]2004 120 GXL V6 4sp Auto D694 LTs and MTRs with Kevlar (best of both worlds )[/b]

                            [url=http://www.fuelly.com/driver/lc120man/prado][img]http://www.fuelly.com/smallsig-metric/48063.png[/img][/url]

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                            • #15
                              Be careful of the size of the slider on the H4-3 as you are very limited by the distance between the headlight casing and the battery! Some wont fit.

                              Testing is on another vehicle currently: STI RA WRX with 4 H1 HID's in Rallye 4000 compacts and a set of H4-2 HID in the normal headlights.
                              Night rally coming up in a month so should be interesting, at least it'll blind some spectators!

                              I havent been able to find any decent prices on true H4-4 (Bi-Xenon) and havent had time to investigate further.
                              Plus the fitting of 4 Ballasts is going to get very tight on any vehicle! (Getting 6 into a wrx has been interesting to say the least).

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