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  • Who put that speed hump there?

    Ok, so zippin' along a city road, doing about 75 when this speed hump comes flying out of nowhere and lays down right in front of me! Bustard! I think when I bounced over it, I was probably doing about 60 at that time. Pulled over, removed my toolboxes from the front seat and put them back in the rear and started off again. Immediately noticeable was a groan and shudder from the passenger front wheel well.

    I don't feel it through the car, pedals or steering wheel. But its a definite shudder. Here is what I do know
    • It mostly appears when body lifts up and down
    • Cornering doesn't make it worse or better
    • Speed seems to have no effect
    • The wheels appear fine. Inflated, no funny angles
    • There was something else I wanted to mention lol....it'll come to me.... nope gone. Bugger.


    At this point I haven't had time to pull the wheel off and have goosey gander. Going to try tomorrow but soo much other stuff on. But when I do, given that I'm not a suspension expert and much prefer the green blue wiggly stuff called electricity, anyone got any pointers?

  • #2
    Damaged inner tie rod?

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    • #3
      As in bent? Or something worse?

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      • #4
        So... am I right in thinking that the lower balljoint doesn't look happy?

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        • #5
          Nek minnit!


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          • #6
            That will do it very time! I can identify with that picture. Mine were Toughdogs, not quite as tough as I expected or was led to believe.
            My 150 build - http://www.pradopoint.com/showthread.php?27423-A-Random-approach-to-a-Bluestorm-150-GXL-D4D-automatic

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            • #7
              lol, those are factory fitted with 370,xxx.... guessing I'm getting off lightly. ALthough, it does beg the question. What else? Why? Was it cracked? :shock:

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              • #8
                anyone selling a 2" lift kit they don't want anymore? lol

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                • #9
                  OE shocks with 370K? Replace them with a set of aftermarket shocks, you won't believe how much the handling will improve!
                  "Sure it’s quiet, for a diesel, but that’s like being well-behaved… for a murderer."- Jeremy Clarkson

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                  • #10
                    I have an idea... since prior to this happening, going around a roundabout faster than 20kmh induced P plater hoonesque moments from the tyre squeal. lol

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                    • #11
                      This is what you can get after jumping the vehicle. Same as what you get if you add coil/strut spacers without extending bump stops.
                      Sometimes the corrugated roads can cause them to break at or usually next to the weld (weakest point).
                      On the o.e ones those pins are only about 16mm thick (dia).
                      Also they are only welded a bit on each side, pretty strong little welds considering what they go through.
                      However one of the most important improvements of an aftermarket strut is the increased pin size, eg; DOBINSONS are about 19mm, and 360 degree welds.
                      So much stronger. They look very chunky & strong.
                      I have o.e struts here if you really want one to put a weaker one in again.

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                      • #12
                        Hey ####, thanks for that little tidbit. I'd rather not point OEM back in. Affording a decent set of brand new struts, shocks and springs is out of my league at the moment. But I'm definetly open to offers of buying second hand aftermarket kits. Rare I know.

                        One thing I do know is, that since I didn't "jump" the car intentionally and honestly, it should've held up to a speedhump at 60k (not good for it, but should've help up) it tells me that the rest of the suspension is a little shaky. Which is all for due course since it's done 370xxx! I'm looking at replacing...

                        front struts and springs
                        rear shocks and springs
                        front ball ball joint
                        wishbone bushes
                        swaybar link bushes (do I need extended sway bar links with a 2" lift?"

                        Open to suggestions on what else should be replaced while I'm in there. I hate doing suspension work so would rather knock it over in one go then come back to fix stuff later.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by RanJ View Post
                          Hey ####, thanks for that little tidbit. I'd rather not point OEM back in. Affording a decent set of brand new struts, shocks and springs is out of my league at the moment. But I'm definetly open to offers of buying second hand aftermarket kits. Rare I know.

                          One thing I do know is, that since I didn't "jump" the car intentionally and honestly, it should've held up to a speedhump at 60k (not good for it, but should've help up) it tells me that the rest of the suspension is a little shaky. Which is all for due course since it's done 370xxx! I'm looking at replacing...

                          front struts and springs
                          rear shocks and springs
                          front ball ball joint
                          wishbone bushes
                          swaybar link bushes (do I need extended sway bar links with a 2" lift?"

                          Open to suggestions on what else should be replaced while I'm in there. I hate doing suspension work so would rather knock it over in one go then come back to fix stuff later.
                          At 370k they would be very fatigued, that combined to a jump is likely why it let go.
                          Obviously in most cases they don't brake too easy.
                          You don't need extended sway bar links.
                          Let me know when your ready, I might be able to get you a price.

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                          • #14
                            Well, I'm ready as I need the Prado back on the road, but the reality is I just simply cannot afford new ones of a decent quality. The cheapest I can find (I'm pretty intent on a 2" lift as its quite advantageous for work) is 550-580 using King Springs which in my mind is great for when I want a car lower but not higher, would rather put my money on something from a better known brand thats done 20-30xxx and pay similar money.

                            Next question, with a 2" lift, do I need special struts or are standard aftermarket struts used with a lift spring? I understand that on big lifts 2.5"-5" and so on that an extended stroke strut is mandatory but I don't know about the 2" point.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by RanJ View Post
                              Nek minnit!



                              Look at that lower eye bush. It is stoofed.
                              This has been a very tired shock for a while & the big jump would have been the final straw.

                              Regards, Jason.

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