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    When filling my fuel tanks, I fill right to the brim. Go for a short drive up and down a steep hill and then come back and top up the tanks again. When the fuel reaches the top of the filler pipe I put the cap on and that's it. This second fill up generally takes about 3 litres. This time I watched the fuel slowly sink down the filler pipe and then I would top up again. I did this a number of times and ended up putting in an extra 12 litres. Instead of having 180 litres in the tanks when I filled them, I only had a max. of 168 litres. Has any one else had this problem or check that they have the same problem.\

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    Re: Filling Fuel Tanks to the Brim

    Well, I don't usually go to that extent, but I do fill to the brim at each fill. I can usually guesstimate how many litres will fit, once I was within 200mls...
    I watch the KM's and the fuel gauge (and sometimes the orange fuel light )
    I am satisfied I run the full 180 litres, orange light comes on, I can get about 165l in....
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    • #3
      Re: Filling Fuel Tanks to the Brim

      As I am filling I usually rock the car side to side a few times to let the air out of the tanks and have found I can get about another 6 litres in. Then fill to the brim.

      Works for me. There is a small tube on the side of the filler tube that spurts fuel down the filler tube when I do this. Not sure what this does but must be letting airlocks out of somewhere in the system.
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      • #4
        Re: Filling Fuel Tanks to the Brim

        Not sure why you go to such lengths. It's always good to let the fuel settle after a long run as some air will get caught up in the tank. And I understand it the filler pipe length is not taken into account when determining fuel tank capacity. So, sure, you could get more fuel by absolutely filling to the brim. But with 180L tank (or 150L if you were unfortunate enough to get a more recent model :lol: :lol: ) as standard, do you really need a few more litres extra?
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        • #5
          Re: Filling Fuel Tanks to the Brim

          I normally fall asleep waiting for the tanks to fill. Then the servo dude wakes me and to a nightmare of $210.00 please
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          • #6
            Re: Filling Fuel Tanks to the Brim

            Originally posted by warrenP
            When filling my fuel tanks, I fill right to the brim. Go for a short drive up and down a steep hill and then come back and top up the tanks again. When the fuel reaches the top of the filler pipe I put the cap on and that's it. This second fill up generally takes about 3 litres. This time I watched the fuel slowly sink down the filler pipe and then I would top up again. I did this a number of times and ended up putting in an extra 12 litres. Instead of having 180 litres in the tanks when I filled them, I only had a max. of 168 litres. Has any one else had this problem or check that they have the same problem.\
            Diesel fuel foams up considerably so the nozzle clicks off. If you wait for the foam to go away you can put more in.

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            • #7
              Re: Filling Fuel Tanks to the Brim

              Go into Caltex Woolies and put the fuel nozzle into the filler pipe. They've removed the lock-out catch so I jam the cap into the handle. As the tank fills, I grab the window washer and clean the screens. Gorilla comes running out of the servo, grabs the nozzle and pulls it out of the car and shoves it back into the bowser. "You're not allowed to leave it un-attended" he screams at me. "You are not allowed to jam the mechanism" he also shouts. "The fuel could spill out onto the pavement and catch fire" he says.

              I asked where was the sign that says all this? He says "Company rules." I said "But isn't the mechanism supposed to cut out when the fuel reaches back up to the nozzle?"

              I go to Perth, Caltex Woolies, put the nozzle into the tank and discover that it still has the lock-out feature. I lock it on and proceed to wash the windows. It clicks off by itself as it should. No complaints or ranting by the attendant.

              Some people are really paranoid aren't they?
              Dave
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              • #8
                Re: Filling Fuel Tanks to the Brim

                Originally posted by Bushbasher
                Go into Caltex Woolies and put the fuel nozzle into the filler pipe. They've removed the lock-out catch so I jam the cap into the handle. As the tank fills, I grab the window washer and clean the screens. Gorilla comes running out of the servo, grabs the nozzle and pulls it out of the car and shoves it back into the bowser. "You're not allowed to leave it un-attended" he screams at me. "You are not allowed to jam the mechanism" he also shouts. "The fuel could spill out onto the pavement and catch fire" he says.

                I asked where was the sign that says all this? He says "Company rules." I said "But isn't the mechanism supposed to cut out when the fuel reaches back up to the nozzle?"

                I go to Perth, Caltex Woolies, put the nozzle into the tank and discover that it still has the lock-out feature. I lock it on and proceed to wash the windows. It clicks off by itself as it should. No complaints or ranting by the attendant.

                Some people are really paranoid aren't they?
                I carry a short length of brazing solder (found it on a building site I was doing some work on) with my fuel card. I put it through the holes and lock the filler on as they usually do. I have been chipped a few times and attendant says local council have been up them about fuel washing into drains/stormwater. I can understand that, but I told them to stand there and put over 150 litres in the car with the slowest pumps in Australia. They threatened to report me to the police. For what I am not too sure...
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                • #9
                  Re: Filling Fuel Tanks to the Brim

                  Yeah, I've had a guy at Shell, turn the pumps off on me while I was filling the tanks, he said some rubbish about I need to be holding the filler.
                  I turned to his boss and said, there's 160 litres of diesel every week I wont be buying here anymore. Don't think that kids works there anymore...
                  Also, I might add, it is quite legal in Aus to leave your engine running while filled diesel..
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                  • #10
                    Re: Filling Fuel Tanks to the Brim

                    Originally posted by Bushbasher
                    Go into Caltex Woolies and put the fuel nozzle into the filler pipe. They've removed the lock-out catch so I jam the cap into the handle. As the tank fills, I grab the window washer and clean the screens. Gorilla comes running out of the servo, grabs the nozzle and pulls it out of the car and shoves it back into the bowser. "You're not allowed to leave it un-attended" he screams at me. "You are not allowed to jam the mechanism" he also shouts. "The fuel could spill out onto the pavement and catch fire" he says.

                    I asked where was the sign that says all this? He says "Company rules." I said "But isn't the mechanism supposed to cut out when the fuel reaches back up to the nozzle?"

                    I go to Perth, Caltex Woolies, put the nozzle into the tank and discover that it still has the lock-out feature. I lock it on and proceed to wash the windows. It clicks off by itself as it should. No complaints or ranting by the attendant.

                    Some people are really paranoid aren't they?
                    I got screamed at over the PA at Woolies in Broken Hill for doing exactly that, fuel cap in the trigger and cleaning the windows, same reason company policy. For quite a few years now NSW have had the lock out feature removed from the nozzles

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                    • #11
                      Re: Filling Fuel Tanks to the Brim

                      There's also a little sign that says "Do not return to vehicle while re-fuelling" which I take means that if you are filling the car, and the missus goes into the shop to buy a cool drink she must not then return to the car whilst you are still filling it with juice in case she introduces the static charge that will blow you, her, the car and the servo into a blazing fireball.

                      So, if you are filling the car and you lock the nozzle down, walk off to fetch the window washer from the next bowser across then you are not supposed then to return to your car. So how do you remove the nozzle and drive off then?

                      And finally, surely if there is some real hazard with locking the nozzle on then why haven't they disabled the feature on all the high-flow pumps that the truckies use? Try holding the trigger down for 1500 litres at a time!
                      Dave
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                      • #12
                        Re: Filling Fuel Tanks to the Brim

                        Originally posted by Bushbasher
                        Go into Caltex Woolies and put the fuel nozzle into the filler pipe. They've removed the lock-out catch so I jam the cap into the handle. As the tank fills, I grab the window washer and clean the screens. Gorilla comes running out of the servo, grabs the nozzle and pulls it out of the car and shoves it back into the bowser. "You're not allowed to leave it un-attended" he screams at me. "You are not allowed to jam the mechanism" he also shouts. "The fuel could spill out onto the pavement and catch fire" he says.

                        I asked where was the sign that says all this? He says "Company rules." I said "But isn't the mechanism supposed to cut out when the fuel reaches back up to the nozzle?"

                        I go to Perth, Caltex Woolies, put the nozzle into the tank and discover that it still has the lock-out feature. I lock it on and proceed to wash the windows. It clicks off by itself as it should. No complaints or ranting by the attendant.

                        Some people are really paranoid aren't they?
                        Could just be one of those walking upright like a man type of Gorilla's, that we all saw on the TV news this week. :lol:
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                        • #13
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                          Police would not get involved in a matter like this. Diesel's flash point is a lot higher than petrol but at the end of the day they can ban you from refueling at their servo if you don't abide by their rules. Its no different than a shop...
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                          • #14
                            Re: Filling Fuel Tanks to the Brim

                            Hey I can understand no 'lock on' for petrol nozzles, for petrol drivers need all the help they can get!!!! us diesel dudes know diesel won't explode, and almost impossible to set a spill on fire, but at $1.40 a litre who is stupid enough to spill a drop anyway. I carry a flat head 40mm nail. Works nicely in most DIESEL nozzles. Never been yelled at. I also know a few outlets that have retained the lock on their diesel pumps, they get my business. PWC

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                            • #15
                              Re: Filling Fuel Tanks to the Brim

                              Originally posted by claytonp
                              Hey I can understand no 'lock on' for petrol nozzles, for petrol drivers need all the help they can get!!!! us diesel dudes know diesel won't explode, and almost impossible to set a spill on fire, but at $1.40 a litre who is stupid enough to spill a drop anyway. I carry a flat head 40mm nail. Works nicely in most DIESEL nozzles. Never been yelled at. I also know a few outlets that have retained the lock on their diesel pumps, they get my business. PWC
                              $1.40 a litre? I don't feel so bad now paying $1.34 after my 4 cent discount here in Kal!
                              Dave
                              Views expressed are mine alone and are not intended to compromise the integrity of my employer nor offend those who may read such views.
                              Bugger Bali, get out and see Australia before we sell it all to China.

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