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    Hi There,
    Being new to my first 4wd (prado) that has a safari snorkel, i am a bit concerned about how much water would enter the snorkel in a heavy rain and thereby enter the airfilter box, especially when the rain can be wind driven in at 100kmph down the snorkel. Has anyone any advice about this, is it anything to be concerned about? :?:

    thanks

    jeff

  • #2
    Re: safari snorkel and water

    Hi Jeff,

    http://www.safarisnorkel.com/docs/product.htm

    All Safari Charge Air Rams feature a highly effective water separator system built right into the air ram in order to remove rain water from the incoming air stream - thus ensuring safe engine operation through even the most torrential tropical storms.

    There a clever bunch.

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    • #3
      Re: safari snorkel and water

      Never had a problem in the recent heavy rains here in QLD and in any case there is a good "auto" drain plug at the bottom of the airbox to let any water out if it should make its way inside.

      Cheers,

      Dave.
      Confidence - The feeling before you fully understand the situation

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      • #4
        Re: safari snorkel and water

        Thanks for the advice,

        I couldnt see any info on the link to the webpage to safari that showed how the snorkel drained the water before the airbox, From what i can see the snorkel feeds directly into the airfilter housing.
        There does not appear to be any outlet other than the rubber one in the airbox itself. Thats why i am a bit concerned. I suppose i will check the air filter housing after heavy rain to see whats happening.

        Does anyone know if the snorkel itself drains the water out b4 the airbox, and if so how?

        Thanks for the interest..

        regards

        Jeff

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        • #5
          Re: safari snorkel and water

          What stops the water from entering the air box through the drain plug (the slotted rubber thing under the spinner)?
          2019 GXL, Bullbar, UHF, Redarc Brake Controller, Tow Bar, Secondary Fuel Filter

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          • #6
            Re: safari snorkel and water

            Originally posted by jaywindy
            Thanks for the advice,

            I couldnt see any info on the link to the webpage to safari that showed how the snorkel drained the water before the airbox, From what i can see the snorkel feeds directly into the airfilter housing.
            There does not appear to be any outlet other than the rubber one in the airbox itself. Thats why i am a bit concerned. I suppose i will check the air filter housing after heavy rain to see whats happening.

            Does anyone know if the snorkel itself drains the water out b4 the airbox, and if so how?

            Thanks for the interest..

            regards

            Jeff
            I have never had a problem with any of my snorkels including Airtech and Safari units in FNQ in about 28 Years worth of tropical motoring in real rain downpours and no I don't rotate my snorkel to the rear, the 120 Series rubber airbox drain seals out external sources of water by virtue of the tension applied by the sealing faces of the rubber. Safari snorkels have grooves in the snorkel head which may help drain away water to a certain extent but the bulk of the water flows into the air intake airbox spinner and out the drain. I have also been doing water crossings in pouring rain with no deleterious effects to the air cleaner or air intake system. Hope this helps a little.
            07 Upgrade GXL D4D, Manual, Dune,Sov Bar, BFG's, SG11, Redark dual Batts, Extensive Aux wiring, Stebel, LED stop tails, IPF HID's (my mod), 240V Inv, ARB Comp, GME UHF,TPMS, Safari snorkel, GPS,Hilux washers, 40l Engel in 30% pas pos,homemade A/C cond protection plate, polyairs.

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            • #7
              Re: safari snorkel and water

              Hi Jeff

              the concept is so simple that its easy to miss,

              in the photo the blue arrows represent rain, the tube running down the A pillar is inserted up to the dent above 1/2 way up, this forms a gutter. The rain comes in and due to its momentum, it hits the back of the ram, runs down into the gutter then drains out the slots.

              Let me know if this doesn't explain it and I'll try to draw a couple of diagrams.

              Matt
              2003 Prado Grande TD Auto Pearl White

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              • #8
                Re: safari snorkel and water

                There you go, I wondered what those slots were for ( other than compression slots )
                I think a small amount of water would still go down the tube but not enough to worry about
                - otherwise you'd hear it all over the boards if people with snorkels were getting water into their engines, espcially with the rains some States have had lately.

                I have been concerend about the rubber "cows teat" drain outlet on the airbox, as it could conceivably let water in the other way too. I guess it relies on the positive air pressure of the airbox ( if the engine is running ) to prevent that.
                However I don't think the snorkel/airbox system can be completely water tight -it's not designed to make your car a submarine for long term immersion. It's only designed to keep water out long enough for you to wade a normal creek or river crossing.
                Cheers, Wayne

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                • #9
                  Re: safari snorkel and water

                  Plus - water is heavier than air. What water gets past the drain in the snorkel head will head towards the airbox where - because it is heavier than air - will usually pool in the bottom of the airbox. The incoming air cannot induce the water into the filter, you need sheer volume of water to achieve this.

                  You would have to put a fair bit of water down the snorkel before it even soaked the filter, never mind flooding past the filter and into the throttle body/inlet plenum.

                  Of course, if you venture under water then the residual water pressure will take care of your engine. Maybe there should be a warning sticker on the side of the snorkel: "Not intended to be used under water!"
                  Dave
                  Views expressed are mine alone and are not intended to compromise the integrity of my employer nor offend those who may read such views.
                  Bugger Bali, get out and see Australia before we sell it all to China.

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                  • #10
                    Re: safari snorkel and water

                    I wonder if putting some bags of desiccant (silica gel or similar) (make sure they can't move or puncture) in the bottom of the air box would be a reasonable idea? Usually there's not a problem with water (but it would soak up anything that did pool down there) but I'd be more worried about days of ultra high humidity. Does this amount of water cause any problems? Of course it wont hydraulic your engine but it may not be good regardless...

                    edit: in some ways if it could be put before the filter at least if the bags broke, the filter would stop a major disaster...wouldn't soak up any pooling though.
                    Cheers - Phil Taylor

                    Prado KZJ120 2006 GX 3.0ltr Manual TJM T13 Bar, Airtec Snorkel, Sand/snow mats, cargo barrier, Cruise, Budget Campertrailer, 8x17" steelies w/ 265/70/R17 Mickey Thompson ATZ 4 ribs, Binatone GPS, Other Stuff...

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                    • #11
                      Re: safari snorkel and water

                      Obviously some (read: a little) water in the air can't be too bad for the engine otherwise my mate wouldn't be running water injection into his Vortech supercharger in his Boss 302 LPG Cobra! The water is atomised and cools the incoming air as well as lubricating and cooling the supercharger impellers.
                      Dave
                      Views expressed are mine alone and are not intended to compromise the integrity of my employer nor offend those who may read such views.
                      Bugger Bali, get out and see Australia before we sell it all to China.

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                      • #12
                        Re: safari snorkel and water

                        Guys,

                        I run a Donaldson cyclonic pre-cleaner on my snorkel. Any moisture in the air is seperated from the air, along with most of the dust, in the pre-cleaner.

                        It looks good after driving in the rain, sometimes holding 30 to 40 mm of water.

                        Mark
                        '05 Prado GXL TD/Auto
                        ARB bullbar
                        12,000lb Ironman winch
                        Brown Davis Bash Plate
                        Ultimate Suspension
                        Twin Hi-Clones
                        DPChip
                        Dual Batteries
                        Safari Snorkel - Donaldson pre-cleaner
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                        • #13
                          Re: safari snorkel and water

                          Hi Guys,

                          I have a 90 series but have read this thread before when purchasing / installing my safari snorkel. Have been pretty skeptical about the water being separated in the head as the diagram shows and pulled my pre-cleaner tub off my air filter the other day and was a bit surprised as I'd only been through some decent rain which only lasted about 15mins at forster over the weekend nothing that I would describe as extreme like tropical rainfall.

                          Fair amount of water has reached the air filter but as someone :roll: was pretty keen to seal the airfilter they have sikaflexed the little rubber flap which allows it to drain...

                          Will be returning it to how it's meant to be but thought you might be interested so took a pic

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                          • #14
                            Re: safari snorkel and water

                            Well after heading up to whitfield in the downpour on friday night the safari snorkle water removal system seems to work now if i could only find a camper trailer that has a remote to unhook, drop stabilisers, errect, and wind out awning itself so i dont get wet i would be stoked
                            Dont list all ya mods, you will only be more upset when i get further

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                            • #15
                              Re: safari snorkel and water

                              Originally posted by luked
                              Hi Guys,

                              I have a 90 series but have read this thread before when purchasing / installing my safari snorkel. Have been pretty skeptical about the water being separated in the head as the diagram shows and pulled my pre-cleaner tub off my air filter the other day and was a bit surprised as I'd only been through some decent rain which only lasted about 15mins at forster over the weekend nothing that I would describe as extreme like tropical rainfall.

                              Fair amount of water has reached the air filter but as someone :roll: was pretty keen to seal the airfilter they have sikaflexed the little rubber flap which allows it to drain...

                              Will be returning it to how it's meant to be but thought you might be interested so took a pic


                              mmmmmmm...soup.
                              Cheers, Wayne

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