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    G'day.

    Am thinking of doing the oil changes myself and just wondering if anyone else here does it themselves and which oil they could recommend.

    The owner manual is pretty general about the oil viscosity to use. My engine has nearly 150,000kms on it. Driving type is almost 50/50 city/highway and most trips are at least 30mins duration so engine always gets to warm up properly.

    Cheers, Markus.
    [color=#BF4000]2003 V6, Auto, GXL, Factory Bullbar, Rhino Roofbars, Bosch and Hella spotties, Cooper AT3, Bilstein shocks, Ironman awning, GME UHF, MaxTrax.[/color]
    [url]www.kymarphotography.com.au[/url]

  • #2
    hi Markus

    I have a 2004 v6 approaching 60,000 and I have been using Toyota's 10/30 motor oil and their oil filter. I do mine every 5000 and its quite easy, just don't forget to coat the oil filter gasket with oil before you install and don't over tighten, hand tight is only needed(no oil on gasket and over tighten = hard time getting it off next time).

    Zapper
    2004 Grande V6 4.0L, Sovereign bar,Tow Pack,Hard Spare Wheel Cover,Rear Spoiler,Reverse parking sensors,Headlight & Bonnet Protectors,Pacemaker Headers,Safari snorkel,Stebel Nautilus Compact Truck Horn, Vapour Sequential Gas Injection , IPF 900 xs,Dual Battery ,radiator protection plate,K&N Airfilter,King Springs,GME TX3440,Waeco CF-60AC Verb,Reverse camera

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    • #3
      Re: DIY Engine oil change - which oil?

      hi Markus,
      I use Caltex Havoline Premium 'Plus', 10W-30
      remember to get the sump plug gsk - you would think when buying an oil filter they would suggest to buy the sump plug gskt - but hey - not paid to think.
      cheers Rod 8)

      Originally posted by mkh
      G'day.

      Am thinking of doing the oil changes myself and just wondering if anyone else here does it themselves and which oil they could recommend.

      The owner manual is pretty general about the oil viscosity to use. My engine has nearly 150,000kms on it. Driving type is almost 50/50 city/highway and most trips are at least 30mins duration so engine always gets to warm up properly.

      Cheers, Markus.
      2005 VX V6 4.0L, Pearl White, Sovereign bar, nitestalker spotties, Tow Pack, Headlight & Bonnet Protectors, radiator bash plate, sandgrabba mats, cargo mat, DVD in headrest, radiator insect screen,

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      • #4
        Cheers guys. Thanks.

        And yes, in the past on previous cars, I've ALWAYS had to ask for the sump plug gasket. Some dealers / service guys even raise their eyebrows as if to say "what? what do you need that for?".

        Like you said, they're not usually paid to think... :roll:
        [color=#BF4000]2003 V6, Auto, GXL, Factory Bullbar, Rhino Roofbars, Bosch and Hella spotties, Cooper AT3, Bilstein shocks, Ironman awning, GME UHF, MaxTrax.[/color]
        [url]www.kymarphotography.com.au[/url]

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        • #5
          I run Fuchs GTO 10W-30 synthetic and stretch it out to 7-8k oil changes. Is good. Everyone has a different opinion on what is good oil though.
          03 Grande V6 4.0L, ARB Deluxe winch bar, XD 9000 Warn winch, Pacemaker Headers, Colour Coded Safari Snorkel, K&N Airfilter, Slotted RDA rotors, 55W HID Hella Rallye 4000 spotlights, Dual batt, TJM comp, TJM underbelly bashplate and custom stainless front bashplates, Extended diff breathers, Reverse camera (Eclipse), Yokohama AT-S, ICON 2.5 adjustable remote resi coilovers(front) ICON 2.5 piggyback shocks(rear), 2" lift airbags, Icom ic400pro, Engel 40L, Custom drawer system, Stainless recovery points, Kimberley MyCube rooftop camper.

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          • #6
            Re: DIY Engine oil change - which oil?

            well, i was thinking of changing the oil myself too, as other people say it is not hard. went to supercheap yesterday, asking for sump plug gasket, they had no idea what is that. is it a must item?
            and also, the dealer says that 10W-40 better on my car. is it true? since most of you here using 10W-30, i was thinking of changing to synthetic oil, but dealer said no good. i am thinking of changing to shell ultra 5W-40 or castrol edge 5W-30 or shell helix plus 10W-40/30. the car has almost reach 100000km
            well the car wont be driven for 1 year, as i am going away for 1 year, but my friend will heat the car every week.
            2003 Grande V6 4.0 - VSI Gas system

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            • #7
              Re: DIY Engine oil change - which oil?

              Hi,
              yes you must replace sump plug gasket.. There is a chance that the old one will not leak but why risk the cost of 5 litres of oil because of a small part. If you choose not to re-new the gasket and use the old on and it does leak you will need to take plug out again to change over - all your new oil will drain out. Nothing worse than doing the same job twice when it is not needed. Go to your toyota dealer and buy a few of them.
              As for oil, well that can be a huge debate.
              I myself use Caltex Havoline 'premium plus' 10W-30. It is not a synthetic but does have the latest SM rating.
              The !0W is for good flow on cold start up. Since the latest engines have very fine tolerances most are now recommending a 30 grade for better flow once hot on the high viscocity side.
              The highest oil grade now has a rating of 'SM'. A 30 grade SM oil will carry the load and heat stress with a very very thin oil film and greater flows through fine tolerences.
              Once you go thicker, eg 20W-50 etc, the oil is really too think for the fine tolerences of todays engines - hence older cars are suggested to use 15W-50, 20W-50 etc.
              As for synthetic, well i think as long as the oil has the highest rating, ie 'SM' i see no real reason on spending the extra.
              I only do 10,000km a year, so i change oil every 5,000km or 6 months, but hey, thats just me. AND always change the filter too.
              If your friend is left with the car, just get him too start car, let it warm up and do a lap around the block. This way it is hot and also gets the revs up a little while driving, not just sitting idling.
              all the best, cheers, Rod


              Originally posted by awp
              well, i was thinking of changing the oil myself too, as other people say it is not hard. went to supercheap yesterday, asking for sump plug gasket, they had no idea what is that. is it a must item?
              and also, the dealer says that 10W-40 better on my car. is it true? since most of you here using 10W-30, i was thinking of changing to synthetic oil, but dealer said no good. i am thinking of changing to shell ultra 5W-40 or castrol edge 5W-30 or shell helix plus 10W-40/30. the car has almost reach 100000km
              well the car wont be driven for 1 year, as i am going away for 1 year, but my friend will heat the car every week.
              2005 VX V6 4.0L, Pearl White, Sovereign bar, nitestalker spotties, Tow Pack, Headlight & Bonnet Protectors, radiator bash plate, sandgrabba mats, cargo mat, DVD in headrest, radiator insect screen,

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              • #8
                Re: DIY Engine oil change - which oil?

                thank for your reply.

                with the sump plug gasket, i will definitely get one from toyota dealer. about the oil, most of you here using 10W-30, but my dealer always use 10W-40. what is the advantage if i change to 10W-30?

                i can only find castrol magnatec 10W-40, shell helix plus 10W-40, shell helix plus eco 10W-30 from my local kmart, as this is the closest one to me.
                castrol have API SM, not sure about the shell, as the website doesn't tell

                Almost forgot, is it easy to find the oil drain plug?
                2003 Grande V6 4.0 - VSI Gas system

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                • #9
                  Re: DIY Engine oil change - which oil?

                  Originally posted by awp
                  thank for your reply.

                  with the sump plug gasket, i will definitely get one from toyota dealer.

                  Almost forgot, is it easy to find the oil drain plug?
                  I have installed one of these and hassles with oil changes are now history.

                  It is very well engineered and very secure, worth every dollar.

                  http://autospeed.com/cms/title_The-Fumo ... ticle.html

                  October 2003 build GLX Prado Diesel. Nudge Bar, window tinting, fitted sheepskin seatcovers, bonnet protector, cargo barrier, sandgrabba mats and empty pockets.
                  Retired Nt Police and now TPI

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                  • #10
                    Re: DIY Engine oil change - which oil?

                    hi,
                    i buy and get my oil delivered via post/courier from www.lubesonline.com.au
                    Ask them for a price delivered to your door ... might be worth it.
                    cheers, rod

                    Originally posted by awp
                    thank for your reply.

                    with the sump plug gasket, i will definitely get one from toyota dealer. about the oil, most of you here using 10W-30, but my dealer always use 10W-40. what is the advantage if i change to 10W-30?

                    i can only find castrol magnatec 10W-40, shell helix plus 10W-40, shell helix plus eco 10W-30 from my local kmart, as this is the closest one to me.
                    castrol have API SM, not sure about the shell, as the website doesn't tell

                    Almost forgot, is it easy to find the oil drain plug?
                    2005 VX V6 4.0L, Pearl White, Sovereign bar, nitestalker spotties, Tow Pack, Headlight & Bonnet Protectors, radiator bash plate, sandgrabba mats, cargo mat, DVD in headrest, radiator insect screen,

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                    • #11
                      Re: DIY Engine oil change - which oil?

                      I my opinion 10W30 oils are not up to the challenge of high ambient temps. SAE 30 is only able to withstand temps up to 35 degree C. I cant comment on your climate but Im sure its hotter there than here. Hence anything below SAE 40 is no good. The reason why manufacturers are using 5w30's in these bigger engines is not just tolerances but its in order to meet fuel consumption and emissions requirements. In the states I believe they using 0w20 oils in the engines and its noted engine life is dramatically reduced.

                      For the best oil for your Prado you want something that flows quickly when the engine is cold and something that can handle the heat when the engine is warm.
                      Techincally speaking the lower the winter rating and the higher the summer the better the oil. i.e a 5w60 is best ( however it will come at a price$$$) I changed my 2004 Hilux 2.7i from Magnetic 10W40 to 5w40 fully synthetic, the difference was felt in the mornings, the vehicle ran smoother when cold and even when starting it when cold the engine felt as if it was warm already. A low winter rating is essential as most wear occurs when the engine is cold.

                      I later decided to change to 10W60 fully synthetic as we get temps up to 45 deg+ C here and the vehicle performed flawlessly. So in my opinion if you need to change your own oil stick to a 10W60 Fully sythetic. The prado V6 is a big engine so it needs some decent lubrication.

                      BTW I recorded no difference in fuel ecomomy from 10w40 to 10w60.
                      2007 Land Cruiser 120, V6 Auto, OME, Soveriegn Bar, Tmax 11000lbs winch, M&M seat covers, BFg AT's (for now) with more comming..........

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                      • #12
                        Re: DIY Engine oil change - which oil?

                        i do oil and filter, with every 5000k interval...using mobil 1 5w-30...seems to run smoother.

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                        • #13
                          Re: DIY Engine oil change - which oil?

                          Just about to change my oil to 5W-40 Valvoline SYN Power Full Synthetic.

                          Specs are: SAE 5W-40 API SM/CF. In the manual is details to use 'API grade SJ or SL'.

                          Can anyone tell me the difference between SM/CF and SJ/SL??

                          And has anyone else used this oil before?

                          Greatly appreciated, thanks.

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                          • #14
                            Re: DIY Engine oil change - which oil?

                            SM is the latest API oil spec and is supposed to be fully backward compatible with previous API ratings.

                            If you want to buy oil in 20L drums, you can typically get havoline fully synthetic 5w40 for $130/drum.
                            2019 GXL, Bullbar, UHF, Redarc Brake Controller, Tow Bar, Secondary Fuel Filter

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                            • #15
                              Re: DIY Engine oil change - which oil?

                              Thanks for that mate.

                              The oil capacity with filter is 5.2L right?

                              I have put 5L in, started the car then let it sit for a minute and its reading way over the full mark on the dipstick.

                              I have changed the oil on every car I have had, but this has me worried. IT IS 5.2 LITRES ISNT IT?

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