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30-03-2008, 04:57 PM
I'm chasing a good quality Australian made swag. dont really want one from China as I'd like to support an Australian business. I have no idea where to start. I've seen the website for Viking swags, and they seem to have a pretty good swag, but how would I know? any suggestions? I'm happy to pay more for an Australian product.

Cheers

Mark

samo
30-03-2008, 05:54 PM
i bought a good one the other day from camping world, called the brumby xl dome got it on sale for $269 down from $320, its made from 14oz canvas, 50mm matress, head and foot bows, sandfly proof mesh, havent used it yet but will be this weekend and its australian made
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee3/sambo772007/15032008249.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee3/sambo772007/15032008247.jpg
cheers samo

DarkHorse
30-03-2008, 06:31 PM
BlackSheep,

I just purchased a brand new and my very first swag from Mr Swagman.

Very nicely finished, well made and a great swag, so says my mate who is going to replace his 11 year old swag with one.

I havent used it in anger yet, but tried it out in the lounge and it was great. Even the missus wanted to "try" it out :shock:

It must be good then!!!!!


Regards,


Rob



http://www.mrswagman.com.au/premium-classic.shtml

Simmo67
30-03-2008, 07:41 PM
Hey samo did you sort out your pegs/rope wtih your swag?

or didn't you bother?

P.S. Can't make Watagans i'm sorry.

:(

Simmo67
30-03-2008, 07:44 PM
Blacksheep I recommend "Burke & Wills" brand, such as the "Coolabah" which I have.

Very well made swag with good quality canvas, aircraft aluminium poles and quality mattress....

I've been using it a lot lately and have fallen in love with it :P

samo
30-03-2008, 08:16 PM
simmo pegs and ropes all sorted, just had a look around da shed and found some stuff to do the job. its not flash but it has some character

S.W
31-03-2008, 08:23 PM
I have a Down Under Swags Brumby XL (same as Samo's above). Comes recommended.

I like the look of the Southern Cross Canvas ones too.

P.S Samo, I got ropes and pegs with mine. Or did you loose them?

samo
31-03-2008, 09:10 PM
dint get ropes or pegs with mine i might have to go a enquire about that one, thanks SW

S.W
01-04-2008, 08:56 PM
Samo, I wouldn't see it as too big a loss. The pegs are only about 150mm long and are made from small diameter steel so I don't use them.

However, it'd be worth asking the retailer because if you were meant to get something you paid for and didn't they need to sharpen up their act.

Fungi2003
01-04-2008, 09:12 PM
I can recommend the Oztrail Mitchell King Single swag (http://www.oztrail.com.au/swags/mitchell.php); its a damn good swag using good quality canvas, double stitching and heavy duty zips. It also has small pockets to store wallets/keys etc and places to hook other small bits of clothing like beanies, gloves and possibly a small lamp. I'm a fairly big fella (horizontally and vertically) and I have no problems fitting in it.

Oztrail is an Australian company but it looks as if their swags are manufactured in China.

plucker
02-04-2008, 11:12 PM
When you do find a swag you like, there are a few things you should know that I found out way too late.
If the matress is anything like my swag it can absorb what seems to be an entire river worth of water and it did take 7 days to dry while hanging in the sun on the sagging clothes line.
However I was not told how to waterproof canvas which would have saved all of this trouble. To waterproof the canvas, you set your swag up in the sun and give it a bit of a hose. Allow it to dry and repeat another 2 times. All the stitching should seal up and the swag should be a lot more waterproof than previously.

Hubble80
03-04-2008, 08:09 AM
I like the look of this one from Rays Outdoors. Can order it on the web. $375.

HERE (https://www.raysoutdoors.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=100)[/url]

Fungi2003
03-04-2008, 12:26 PM
When you do find a swag you like, there are a few things you should know that I found out way too late.
If the matress is anything like my swag it can absorb what seems to be an entire river worth of water and it did take 7 days to dry while hanging in the sun on the sagging clothes line.
However I was not told how to waterproof canvas which would have saved all of this trouble. To waterproof the canvas, you set your swag up in the sun and give it a bit of a hose. Allow it to dry and repeat another 2 times. All the stitching should seal up and the swag should be a lot more waterproof than previously.

Thats a recommendation that Oztrail make for their canvas tents and swags, either in the documentation or on a tag sown on that item.

Jasjul
05-04-2008, 10:12 AM
I have a Mr Swagman and am very happy. I've got the double, top of the range with the hoops either end. Before first use I did the waterproof thing as detailed above, with mattress out. First use it bucketed down, before snowing. We were camped at Horseyard Flat(1500 metres). Very slight leak through seams in two corners. Gave it another soak and no probs since.

Grandeman
05-06-2008, 09:09 PM
I like the look of the Southern Cross Canvas ones too.
I've heard a lot of good reports about these - I'm interested in the double one... 8)

samo
05-06-2008, 09:52 PM
tested me swag out about a month ago and was really impressed was a very cool night up the beach, around 7deg and only had a 10deg sleeping bag and had the cover zipped up with the end flap down, woke up in a lather of sweat, would be interested to see how it handles a good shower/ best $260 bucks i spent, just roll it up and throw it on the roof rak and ya ready to go

05-06-2008, 10:12 PM
I ended up getting a Bourke & Wills Redgum XL and am very happy with it so far. Fittings and finish are high quality. 15oz Australian canvas. Very comfortable and like most other swags, so quick and easy to set up or pack up. I got a great internet deal through a camping store in Brisbane. Paid $399.00 (yes thats not cheap, but this swag is a good one and ticked all or most of the boxes for me) I've seen the same swag at another BIG outdoor place for around $530, so I'm very happy with the swag and the deal I got.

Grandeman
05-06-2008, 10:16 PM
Nice deal :D

I think the Southern Cross double is well north of 500 bucks... :(

samo
05-06-2008, 10:34 PM
is the southern cross double the same as the arb double swag, if it is there is a price difference.

Yota
06-06-2008, 10:59 AM
The southern Cross dome swag retails about $680, I picked one up at the resent Maitland camping show for $630 & havnt had a chance to test it out yet.
It is badged "ARB Newcastle" but they had a southern cross canvas salesman selling them, like alot of ARB products they are just re-badged.

Grandeman
06-06-2008, 03:44 PM
Just ordered mine from Len at ARB Newcastle - yes they are the Southern Cross one. :D :D

samo
07-06-2008, 03:54 PM
they seem not a bad alternative as you say matt, the price is right and it seems to have a h/d 14 oz canvas, the best thing to do when ya buy one is to set it up and give it a good hose around the stiching, when it dries out the canvas will shrink around the stiching making it more water proof, i did my swag a few times to make sure, just need some rain now to see if it leaks, you can get waterproof sealers but im not sure what they will do to the canvas in the long run.

samo
07-06-2008, 04:47 PM
i had a look at the mitchell single, they r pretty lightweight, they use an 10 oz canvas which seems a little light for me, if im spending some good money i would get the most h/d i could for my money. just a though.

Spurio
07-06-2008, 06:29 PM
I'm away in the bush about 4 days in 10. Over the cooler months I use an Australian Outback Bush Gear swag. Previous makes I had only lasted about 2-3 years before they worn out.

My current one has lasted over 10 years and is still water proof and the zipper still works. The only precaution is I use a cotton liner when I am really filthy to keep the inside clean.

Here is a link:
http://www.4wdworld.com.au/products/aus ... /index.htm (http://www.4wdworld.com.au/products/austoutback/index.htm)

They are made in Australia down in Fyshwich. I think you may find most of the ARB/TJM/campingworld ones are made in china.

samo
07-06-2008, 07:54 PM
she is on the pricey side but your getting top quality everything, $650 over 10 years, $65 per year, if ya break it down that way its seem the way to go, interested to see how my brumby xl will go in 10 years time.

Spurio
08-06-2008, 04:39 AM
Are you after a tent or a swag PradoGXLV6 ??

Have you had a look at high quality one man tents, they maybe cheaper, lighter and a whole lot smaller to pack ? Some of the better ones are made out of breathable material that allows all the condensation out.

I don't like the tent style swags as condensation forms on the inside walls and makes your sleeping bag, sheets, blankets all wet when you roll on them in the night. It doesn't seem to be a problem with the basic swags as all you hot air escapes out the end.

Don't know about why they don't have a website?? I have not spoken with them since buying it.

Grandeman
09-06-2008, 03:08 PM
Swagman one looks good, Matt.

I tried my ARB Newcastle swag one last night in the yard with the boys and it was a bloody beauty - only thing, I think Swagman's mattress might be better and well worth having for the thicker mattress.

Nothing that a trip to Clark Rubber won't fix with mine though... :D

Yota
10-06-2008, 03:42 PM
Well done Matt
If you go with a group order ill be up for a double swag bag.

Grandeman
11-06-2008, 04:15 PM
Just rang Southern Cross canvas to enquire about a bag - $250!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

Obviously made for them by Gucci... strewth!

yetiboy01
12-06-2008, 10:42 PM
I've got a Ultimate Swag & love it, its has full mesh over the top & both ends, its great for up the cape & the tropics as it has very good vetilation & the swag sits a bit higher off you than a normal swag, gives you a bit of room to move to get dressed or read or what ever. it also has a canavas cover that can be rigged up in different ways, as a sun shade or fully enclose the swag in wet or cold weather

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii313/yetiboy01/ultimaz.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii313/yetiboy01/BramstonBeachCamp23-07-0605-1.jpg


http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii31 ... rCamp1.jpg (http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii313/yetiboy01/ArcherRiverCamp1.jpg)

[http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii313/yetiboy01/ArcherRiverCamp1.jpg

glipschitz
12-06-2008, 10:52 PM
Southern Cross Canvass in Bayswater (VIC)
http://www.southerncrosscanvas.com.au/
(03) 9729 5056

Their products are excellent. Very good quality canvass, good stitching, custom made to order and excellent.

Have purchased many tents from them through my Scouting life of 17 years so can highly recommend them.

Greg

plucker
16-06-2008, 09:05 AM
I have a swag that must be the earlier version of what Yetiboy01 showed.
My swag has mesh over the front and back with canvas on the ends. Also have the full canvas cover that can sit over the top for protection.
I have camped next to mangroves and barely seen a sandfly sneak in too.

samo
18-06-2008, 06:58 PM
yeh im interested order me 10 double domes please :lol:

Grandeman
18-06-2008, 08:36 PM
yeh im interested order me 10 double domes please :lol:
Got yourself a harem eh, Samo?? :D :D :D :D

damonat
19-06-2008, 07:37 PM
matt.
add me down for a double swag bag.
thanks

Chuck
12-07-2008, 08:42 PM
If I order one can you drop it off?

Might even give you a beer or two :lol: :lol:

mav
12-07-2008, 08:49 PM
If I order one can you drop it off?

Might even give you a beer or two :lol: :lol:

I reckon Matt would be able to drop it at the Bus Freight terminal for you in Singleton. :lol:

damonat
18-07-2008, 07:05 PM
Mmmm,

Bad news swag buyers.. I have to put my order on hold, as I just bought a winch instead.. the money tree won't be bearing any more cash for a while...

Cheers,
no probs. whenever/if it happens.

Grandeman
18-07-2008, 07:29 PM
Which winch did you get, Matt? I've ordered the Magnum :D

EDIT: Just saw your other thread - nice one, Matt :D

plucker
08-08-2008, 06:38 PM
The thing with swags are that they last forever, which is probably why not everyone needed one.
Sure it will do well and help keep you in the great outdoors.

ntp
08-08-2008, 06:43 PM
Done and dusted, One Mr Swagman Double Deluxe swag ordered.

I shall do a write up, once it arrives and I get a weekend to test it out fully. Certainly pricey, but it looks fantastic and everyone I have spoken too, raves about them.

Cheers :P ,

Look forward to reading the review and hearing of your recommendations. :D

damonat
21-08-2008, 04:41 PM
good looking swag.
pity i can't say the same about your blotchy grass :lol:

samo
21-08-2008, 07:34 PM
very nice, good to see all that hard work ya doing is paying off :lol:

FlyNdrive
01-02-2009, 12:43 PM
I would like to revitalise this thread. I'm looking for a Swag to put me up for the Simpson crossing & GTG. I was looking at several different options, but want a swag to bring back home as a souvenir for other overland traveling that I do.

Please let me know your thoughts and keep in mind I will be living in this thing for about 20 days.

Thanks,

-Ben

1) My favorite and front runner is the Mr. Swagman Deluxe, It's a nice Swag W/ a nice 70 mm sleeping pad, looks well built & has a nice rain fly.

but the $550 (OZ) is about $350 (US)....OUCH!!

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x173/FlyNdrive/18-l.jpg

2) OZ Trail, Mitchel. It looks well built and has a lot of the features of the Mr. Swagman Deluxe, but is a more reasonable $250

http://www.downundercamping.com.au/images/cache/d8cbf63f89581f23522594d6ad366b13.jpg

3) Onland Country (AKA 3-pole), It's a nice looking traditional Swag. and reasonably priced @ $270.

http://www.swags-r-us.com.au/images/country_dome_kit.jpg

4) I also like the look and functionality of the Burke & Willis Coolabah $400 (~$370 eBay), but not as excited. looking for a little input.

http://i9.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/b1/1f/ad9d_3.JPG

FlyNdrive
02-02-2009, 09:40 AM
bump

photoprado
02-02-2009, 11:07 AM
I'm going to swim against the tide here and tell you that the most comfortable night I ever had in the outback was in a normal swag, not one of those pseudo tents. :)

You can see the stars better too...

http://www.mrswagman.com.au/images/2-l.jpg

FlyNdrive
02-02-2009, 01:14 PM
I'm looking at one to take back home with me and keep for several years. It will also be used in the winter months, so while I'm inside I will also have my 0 degree sleeping bag. All these models have zip open mosquito nets so I can still sleep under the stars and with all the king browns that will fir inside.

-Ben

rhs58
02-02-2009, 01:42 PM
I have one of Mr Swagman's Classic swags - Double size.
http://www.mrswagman.com.au/premium-classic.shtml
Works well as a traditional flat swag but has the option of being turned in to a mini-tent.
Mattress is better than I've experienced in other swags.
Quality is very very good and I expect the swag to last for years and years.

samo
02-02-2009, 02:57 PM
my pick would be the mr swagman, burke and wills, as they have h/duty canvas, the oztrail mitchell i looked at had 10 oz canvas, it was nice and light but i prefer the 14 oz canvas for more protection for the elements and better wear and tear, but on the flip side the oztrail mitchell is right priced as well as the onland, so weather you want bang for bucks or just want the ducks guts the choice is up to you. cheers samo

FlyNdrive
03-02-2009, 06:01 AM
Thanks for the input.

The Mr. Swagman looks like the front runner, but is it worth the extra $200?

-Ben

Auto-Craft
03-02-2009, 07:37 AM
I have stayed away from the "mainstay" suppliers of swags, and had mine made to my design by a guy who spent his life mustering cattle and sleeping outdoors, also now making swags, horse gear etc with his wife, now the years of horse riding, and rodeo riding have taken the toll.

Some of the things I dislike about a swag is if you have to put in poles, and pegs, buy a tent, at least you can stand upt o get dressed.

The ones I have [single and double] have a wire frame to keep the canvas off your head, velcro entry flap, window in the end, fylscreen, and roll up into the wire head frame, a bit like a gladstone bag. No poles, no ropes, no pegs, so i can use it in huts or on verandas etc as well.

I use a thermorest double in the double, ofr use one side of it for the single swag.

This pic is sort of how it works

http://www.snowymountainrugco.com.au/uploads/30410/ufiles/canvas_btn.jpg

If you want a cheap roomy swag that works, without spending to much, but will give you 5-10 years good service then the DUNE from Anaconda would be the go.

If you want more room for shoes and clothes bag, then I would say, for 2 poles, and 4 pegs, a Coleman cobra 3 or similar is ideal for desert camping more than a week.

FlyNdrive
03-02-2009, 01:30 PM
Thanks Darren.

One draw back to the Mr. Swagman is that it has 2 poles and it seems to hang down onto the person inside. I would love a custom made swag, but time and $$'s permitting says, 'no'.

Thanks,

-Ben

Auto-Craft
03-02-2009, 05:08 PM
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff56/assassin_offroad/stevesswag.jpg

This is one of the best really, made in Melb for deer shooters, so its snow proof, water proof, windproof, 3 poles 4 pegs, waterproof bottom, windows each end, rolls flat and small, has plastic section to stand on in socks and flap to cover shoes for dew or rain.

I am looking at one of these for myself at the moment.

ntp
03-02-2009, 06:35 PM
I am looking at one of these for myself at the moment.
What is it called, how much and what does it weight or what size does it fold down to?

Auto-Craft
04-02-2009, 02:54 PM
I am looking at one of these for myself at the moment.
What is it called, how much and what does it weight or what size does it fold down to?


It isnt heavy, best to use a thermo rest will roll to about 8" round.

Cost i dont know yet.

photoprado
04-02-2009, 04:55 PM
Or one of the newer Pacific Outdoor Sleeping Mats (http://mycampgear.com/2008/10/03/review-pacific-outdoors-ether-thermo-6-sleeping-mat)

I've used the thermarests for years, but these new designs are looking good. +1 for the shopping list. :) (does it ever end)

Auto-Craft
05-02-2009, 07:46 AM
Or one of the newer Pacific Outdoor Sleeping Mats (http://mycampgear.com/2008/10/03/review-pacific-outdoors-ether-thermo-6-sleeping-mat)

I've used the thermarests for years, but these new designs are looking good. +1 for the shopping list. :) (does it ever end)

Interesting concept, though if it gets moisture, hard to fix, and the down would end up lumpy, they would be heavy, and would roll up large.

Having tried most, the thicker, the worse they are with more air normally, making for the air, especially in the cheaper versions to go to the head and feet, where there is less body pressure during the night.

That is what makes the thermorests so good, the good quality foam, and the air being "trapped" where it should be.

I use a base camp double thermorest, in the swag, for 2, and the single, but leave one deflated and folded under the other.

We use a big double air bed which is 600mm high when inflated for base camping, velour non slip top, and put a lambswool on top of it to stop any body heat transfer into the air bed, and our 2 sleeping bags zip together to make a double doona.

photoprado
05-02-2009, 08:45 AM
Interesting concept, though if it gets moisture, hard to fix, and the down would end up lumpy, they would be heavy, and would roll up large.


That would be a problem if they actually had down in them. You can get sleeping pads with down, but the manufacturers advise to never inflate them with your moist breath for that very reason. I guess they would be useful in extreme climates, but you would need to carry some sort of pump.

The Pacific Outdoor seems to have been collecting a lot of followers, mainly with hikers which is my interest in it. For longer term vehicle based camping, I'd probably go with one of the 4wd mats.

For hiking though, it's always a trade-off between packed size and weight vs comfort...

kylie88
22-02-2009, 12:41 PM
We bought an OzTrail Mitchell Double (not sure about price, but it is well worth it!). Best thing ever. Has a really thick mattress, fully lined with flyscreen, and the cover is fully waterproof as well. Admittedly they are heavy (well for me they are!) and do take up more room, but having a good night sleep out in the bush is definitely worth it.

longdog
18-05-2009, 09:50 AM
Just ordered a Mr Swagman classic double with carry bag.

Thought you'd all like to know that Mark is still happy to knock 10% off for PradoPoint members.

Cheers, longdog

rhs58
18-05-2009, 04:10 PM
Just ordered a Mr Swagman classic double with carry bag.

Thought you'd all like to know that Mark is still happy to knock 10% off for PradoPoint members.

Cheers, longdog

I've got one of these, had it over a year, and I'm very pleased with it
- even SWMBO doesn't mind it, but then maybe it's the company in the swag that keeps her happy :wink:

jasonh
22-07-2009, 08:26 PM
Hi Guys,

I am looking at getting a Mr. Swagman Delux swag, the question is do i go double or single. 99% of the time it will only be me, but I do like the idea of a bit extra room.

My delima is how much room am I really going to lose from the rear of the car, i dont have basket to put it in so it would have to go in the "boot".

Also I know I have read somewhere but cant seem to find it again. But the bottom of the swags are canvas and not the heavy duty plastic right?

Thanks

Jason

longdog
30-07-2009, 11:18 PM
Hi Jasonh,

As I said above, I got the "classic" double swag, not the "deluxe", but I would think it would be basically the same size rolled up.

We had planned to take it on the PPGTG, in the car, sitting across on top of our other bags. I had trialled it in the car and confirmed that it did fit "straight across" the back seat. However, when packing for the trip, sitting it on top of other bags didn't work so well because the car gets narrower towards the roof. With a deal of effort I could get it to fit, but it only lasted one day in the car and then spent the next 4 weeks on the roof rack!

Fortunately we had purchased the canvas carry bag, which although it felt a bit steep at $100-odd at the time, it was worth it's weight in gold once the swag got hurled on the roof. Through rain (though only a little), dust and sand, the swag was still immaculate inside even after weeks of dusty roads.

The bottom of the swag is canvas. The carry bag also serves as a canvas ground sheet. We also use a "CGear" ground sheet which is basically a heavy duty double-layer shade cloth and is one of the best things I've ever owned.

Cheers, longdog

jasonh
31-07-2009, 05:46 AM
Thanks for the info longdog,

I bit the bullet and have gone for the double, it was delivered this week/

Mark was happy to do the 10% discount for PP members still.

Just have to hope now I dont pack to much to get it in the back (or talk the wife into getting a rack)

Thanks

Jason