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Steptoe
02-08-2007, 09:43 AM
I am hoping that someone out there may be able to help me.
I am getting the ARB Deluxe Winch Bar fitted in a week and a half, I really like the look of the Bar with the fog lights in it however living in sunny Queensland I don't see a great need for fog lights. Paying $500 for lights to go in the bar that will have next to no use seems pointless to me. I am allready putting twin spot IPF 900XS lights on the top of the bar so I want to put a set of small spread beam driving lights in the bar instead of the fog, but I can't seem to find any information on what lights may fit (if any). ARB are not willing to look any further into it for me, TJM are more than willing to look into it for me but they can't do anything untill they have the bar in front of them. I guess i'm just impatient, but I would like to find a solution before I have the bar fitted. HELP!!!!!

Drew
03-08-2007, 01:17 AM
Steptoe, It looks like you might just have to wait until the bar is fitted and look closer then. I'm sure something can be rigged up.

Good luck,

Drew.

Grandeman
03-08-2007, 01:51 AM
I'm thinking of HID inserts for my foggys

Drew
03-08-2007, 01:55 AM
I'm thinking of HID inserts for my foggys
Careful now (as Father Ted once said).

You don't want anything too dazzling in your fog lights if you actually plan to use them as fog lights. But then again - aren't you a city dweller? I don't think they get fog in the city! :lol:

:wink:
Drew.

Grandeman
03-08-2007, 02:00 AM
The fog's purely in my mind... besides, I'm scared of the dark :D

Steptoe
03-08-2007, 12:53 PM
I did consider HID inserts for the fog lights but I assumed that the reflector shape would still be wrong for the beam I am chasing.

Tonytbts
03-08-2007, 03:58 PM
I have fitted Narva 115 mm driving lights into the ARB fog light housing. They are the kit with the LED parking-light ring inlet into the edge of the reflector housing. They are a bitch to find on the internet. I got mine from Repco, but they are not readily available in my area at the moment.

They JUST fit after you do some creative dremelling of the surround, and some tricky fabricating of brackets so that the spotties can be adjusted to shine where you want them (I have mine lighting up the sides of the road). It is all doable with a few bolts, bits of steel and some head scratching.

They are hooked up with a relay to dim with the high beams and other spotties.

They throw a reasonable light for their size and 55w bulbs, but it looks pretty sad against the HID's that I have in my main Rallye 4000's, so they are about to get a HID upgrade this weekend.

I have another set of the Narva's in the cutout for the winch - I bought the winch bar just in case, but have not and probably won't fit the winch, so I had a space to fill. They run directly off the fog light switch and wiring in the car that was rendered surplus when the standard Foggies were removed to fit the bull bar.

Steptoe
03-08-2007, 06:50 PM
Awesome Tonytbts
That is exactly the information I was after. I figured someone out there would have done it.
Cheers

Tonytbts
06-08-2007, 10:17 AM
Okay, had it apart to install the HID upgrade. These pics are taken before the upgrade and show the bodgied together mounting brackets that enable the lights to be aimed. The aiming process is an epic pain, because you have to remove-adjust-reinstall the light for each adjustment.

http://autos.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/120scool/photos/view/569a?b=14


http://autos.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/120scool/photos/view/569a?b=15


http://autos.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/120scool/photos/view/569a?b=16

http://autos.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/120scool/photos/view/569a?b=17

http://autos.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/120scool/photos/view/569a?b=18

By the way, the E-bay HID inserts turn these little spotties into absolute flamethrowers by comparison to the standard bulbs ...

cheers, Tony



EDIT....
Ahh stuff it - can someone tell me what I am doing wrong with the image posting??

Sorry for the cross-forum reference, but the photos can be found in the album "Tony's Prado" at LCool. http://autos.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/ ... se/569a?c= (http://autos.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/120scool/photos/browse/569a?c=)

lc120_man
07-08-2007, 01:47 PM
Yep, I got blue navra lights sitting in the shed to put in instead of the fog
lights for the same reason... anyone got a quick insturcitons on how to remove arb light assembly, cause I can't figure it out...

Thanks,

Stan

Tonytbts
07-08-2007, 02:50 PM
undo the five 14mm bolts that hold each side of the lower plates on the ARB bar, and remove the plates.

Reach up behind the bar and undo the three 10mm bolts each side that hold the steel backing plate to the fog light surround.

Undo any electrical connections.

wiggle the fog light housing out from the front.

cheers, Tony

lc120_man
09-08-2007, 07:07 PM
Thanks for that. Got one side done today... This is the lights I use BTW:
http://autoonecai.cart.net.au/details/170246.html

lc120_man
10-08-2007, 05:16 PM
This is how my bullbar looks like with AUNGER LONG RANGE 5000 SERIES STEALTH BLUE LENSES... Got them fitted today.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/stanchec/Prado/foglights.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f108/stanchec/Prado/foglights2.jpg

McBAIN
10-08-2007, 06:02 PM
looks good stan!

that bar without the loops over the headlights is growing on me! :)

Damien Parker
14-08-2007, 12:02 PM
OK here's a question for you guys. Have these lights been replacements for ARB's OEM items or did you have the bar with out the lights and fit them into the recesses that are there for the lights?

Tonytbts
14-08-2007, 12:38 PM
I fitted them without ever buying the ARB lights.

Cheers, Tony

Damien Parker
14-08-2007, 03:28 PM
Awesome.

I wish i could see the photo's of your setup tony, but have to be a member of the yahoo group to see. :(

Tonytbts
14-08-2007, 03:36 PM
Damien - please check your private messages.
Tony

Damien Parker
14-08-2007, 04:00 PM
Thanks for sending the photos through Tony.

I now have more items to add to my wish list's :)

lc120_man
14-08-2007, 05:51 PM
Awesome.

I wish i could see the photo's of your setup tony, but have to be a member of the yahoo group to see. :(

Damien,

You can join yahoo group here: http://www.lcool.org/form/application_new.html

I didn't had ARB lights before as well...

Damien Parker
14-08-2007, 06:38 PM
Thanks Stan.

Just filled out the form. :)

FlyNdrive
02-09-2007, 06:16 AM
Some of the American FJ's have gone with these from eBay. I can't vouch for the quality, but the cost is a lot better.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2007-TOYOTA-FJ-CRUISER-FOG-LIGHTS-lamps-HID-kit-07-TRD_W0QQitemZ170143767277QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item1 70143767277

Good luck,

-Ben

robyrob
21-09-2007, 10:02 PM
I've just set ours up using Narva 100mm foggy's, worked a treat with about a 10mm clearance around light and no need to disfigure moulded inserts in front bar. I just need to remove fixing points for plastic covers and with the use of some 3mm ally angle, made custome brackets which when drilled to match Narva light bolts, fitted like a glove and look a million bucks. I didn't like the idea of parting with $$$ for OEM IPF foggy's even though I'm sure there a damn good light. Narva lights have a metal casing and are quite adequate for the job. I don't really use them for foggy's as the are a little too high to do what you would expect a fog light to do. I use them more as additional driving lights. Retail cost was $155, however I'd pick up for $108 so was very happy. Narva also make a 100mm driving light 55w kit, same but with different reflector/globe setup. These retail for I think $120 in store. Best thing was the OEM Toyota fog wiring loom worked a treat so no crappy switches to deal with in cabin.

Damien Parker
21-09-2007, 11:24 PM
That's exactly what i am planning to do to my new bar when i pick it up tomorrow.

22-09-2007, 09:17 AM
Steptoe,

I live in Toowoomba, and they are a must up here when we get cloud roll in over the range. . Never know when you might need them...

Mark

chester
27-04-2009, 07:54 PM
Umm i dnt know if it is just me but my so called fog lights in my ARB bar are brighter than my headlights

Schaffer
08-05-2009, 01:23 PM
Umm i dnt know if it is just me but my so called fog lights in my ARB bar are brighter than my headlights
Mine are fine. Do you have aftermarket globes in your headlights? How old is your vehicle? Has the headlights been subjected to extreme water that may have effected their reflective capabilities?

MickL
08-05-2009, 01:32 PM
Umm i dnt know if it is just me but my so called fog lights in my ARB bar are brighter than my headlights
Mine are fine. Do you have aftermarket globes in your headlights? How old is your vehicle? Has the headlights been subjected to extreme water that may have effected their reflective capabilities?

Another thing to check is the headlight adjustment. Toyota are a little conservative and aim them quite low... add a litte lift and it can be way out.

You'll find even on a standard Prado they can be adjust "Up" a fair bit without dazzling oncoming cars, but improving forward penitration a whole lot.

Along with the adjustment add a set of globes along the lines of the Phillips 50+ (I think they do 80+ now as well :?: ) for a good, cost effective result.


Mick

chester
08-05-2009, 09:29 PM
yeah it has been lifted how do you adjust the headlights

MickL
08-05-2009, 09:41 PM
yeah it has been lifted how do you adjust the headlights

On the rear of each headlight unit are a two seperate adjusting screws that move the reflector.. one adjusts left to right, the other up and down.

Mick

8608
22-12-2012, 11:58 PM
yes i know, old thread.

but i am about to put some Narva 100mm fog lights in Place of the crappy ARB foggies.

has anyone done this with the new generation for light surround?

thanks