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McBAIN
27-03-2007, 12:13 AM
anyone changed them? or pulled the door apart and seen them?

what size? what wattage?

i'm thinking of upgrading the headunit and i'm curious but haven't had the chance to go digging for details!

Drew
27-03-2007, 09:14 PM
Very good question McBain. I've also considered swapping the speakers myself. I reckon this would be a good upgrade before considering swapping the head unit.

As yet I haven't had the spare time to pop the door trim off to have a squizz.

I wonder who will get to it first? :-)

Drew.

Simmo67
31-03-2007, 05:41 PM
Hi guys. I am no techno, but probably the ONLY thing I am disappointed with about my Prado is the bloody stereo system. Its the standard 6 stacker CD/MP3 Unit. To me, it just sounds muffled, as if the "Tone" setting is set to background or something? (But there is no Tone to play with).

Does anybody else feel this way? Would changing the speakers help or is the unit itself just under-powered or something.

Thanks
Greg Simpson
Orange, NSW
2006 Toyota Prado Turbo Diesel GXL

Addy
31-03-2007, 07:22 PM
For a standard system I thought it wasn't to bad, the bass is pretty good i thought. It would have to be the best standard system in any car that i have owned.
Yep if you want more performance and quality speakers would be a start.
Then the next thing, to get the best out of them you need a good amp.
It all depends on how much money you want to spend been there done that :lol: :lol:

phil
01-04-2007, 12:20 AM
I have the upgrade 6 stacker (bluetooth) stereo and found it to be pretty good. Stereos are getting better laterly in most new vehicles.
The best stereo i have come across is in the latest WM Caprice, It has Bose head unit and speakers, 3 screens. That would be nice in the Pardo.
An after market deck can also sound better with standard speakers.
Cheers Phil.

Addy
01-04-2007, 01:50 PM
While I still think it is a good system, I think it should something like the caprice.
Something to keep the kids happy in the back. With the amount of money I spent on the grande I feel a bit ripped off when a up market commadore has it. :x :x

BAZPRADO
03-05-2007, 07:40 PM
I have asked that same question a long time ago, very little response. The standard stereo is horrible, and so are the speakers! I would love to change both the Head Unita and speakers, no one was able to provide any instructions on how to remove the door panels, I am just afraid of breaking something or another, any advice would certainly be appreciated.

Cheers.

siukalo
03-05-2007, 08:20 PM
Hi

Most cars in Aus, is fitted with 6.5in sepakers. Most of them either 15w up 30w for a stock car. Now the problem is the depth of the door if it is wide enough for a aftermarket speaker. As most of the factory ones are very flimsy. I have put boston 6.5LF in the door of my X-Trail before and it is a tight squeese. Well I don't get my car until 25/05 so once I get it I rip it apart n let you guy know.

cuda
03-05-2007, 10:43 PM
The door trim is easy to remove.

Use a flat blade screw driver to pop the arm rest padding off (apply upward force under the join). Also use the screw driver to pry off the cover next to the door lock release. You will then find 3 screws exposed. 1 behind the door lock mechanism and 2 under the arm rest padding. You can then pull at the base of the trim at the bottom of the door to complete the removal.

Not suprisingly the OEM speakers fitted do not match any of the profiles of speakers on the market ie 6x9 etc. You will probably have to make a cover plate for each speaker.

Regards
Doug

McBAIN
17-03-2008, 09:01 PM
thought i'd drag this one up from 12 months ago in case anyone was wondering.

found these (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/TOYOTA-PRADO-FACTORY-FRONT-REAR-DOOR-SPEAKERS_W0QQitemZ220211405241QQihZ012QQcategoryZ3 292QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) on ebay during random searching.

looks like a 6" and a 6x9"

though i think the seller got a little confused in his description selling "Nissan Prado speakers"

clifton
19-03-2008, 12:39 PM
Hi McBain,

Aren't those very flash "Prado grade S/S? kick panels, I thought I might bid but read on further about the adhesion requirement with double sided tape Naaaa, sorry got side tracked it has stopped raining :?

Those drivers (speakers) are as you describe, I checked mine out, there are adaptors available from good car audio shops, this I am told by a young bloke up the street big into Doof Doofs. :) :) :)

playdo
25-03-2008, 01:32 PM
Recently looked into this myself. The speaker guy (who has a Prado) said that the front speakers were pretty good but that the rear were definately upgradable.

playdo
25-03-2008, 01:32 PM
Recently looked into this myself. The speaker guy (who has a Prado) said that the front speakers were pretty good but that the rear were definately upgradable.

Russ WA
18-05-2008, 09:45 PM
Has any one added a amplifier to there Prado with a sub?

I was thinking a powered sub under the seat. 8)

As described before the newer versions of amplifier doesn't have a loudness button and by turning all the tone settings up to high make the unit sound muffled or commpressed.

I upgraded from a older unit to the latest unit but have found it has great features but doesn't sound the same.It needs some bass at low level. :twisted:

Russ

McBAIN
19-05-2008, 12:15 PM
I added a sub to the back, like you said the bass levels at low volume were my main reason for doing so...

i think i mentioned it OVER HERE (http://www.pradopoint.com/viewtopic.php?t=1672&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=68) but it was pretty small.

writeup on my web page. HERE (http://www.hgfs.net/4x4mods/0710headunit/sub/0712sub.htm)

Russ WA
21-05-2008, 05:16 PM
Thats Great and I must of missed that reveiw.

I think the Sub you installed is to big for what i'm after I was thinking of one that could fit under the seat while leaving the exsisting head end in.

http://www.ryda.com.au/Ryda-Car-Audio-Powered-Subwoofer-Store-s/65.htm

How did it sound with every thing installed?

Russ

mjforder
04-06-2008, 11:30 AM
Another great PP write-up - thanks McBain.

Just wondering about this myself....I have a Sony XM-1S compact 4 channel amp which im looking at placing either under the driver's or passenger's seat and running the bridged channel to a JBL sub in a box. Both of these were from my old car.

I was contemplating not accessing the wiring harness feeding from the head unit (looks like too much work to get to it) - but hacking into the wiring run to the rear speakers that run near the front sill on both sides of the car. The Sony can take speaker level as an input.

Any thoughts whether this "upgrade" would result in not a very good improvement from stock sound (I have the 6 disc in-dash MP3, bluetooth factory head unit and cannot justify to replace it). Im really only interested to get some real bass - low frequency etc.

thanks!

Michael

McBAIN
04-06-2008, 11:42 AM
Thats Great and I must of missed that reveiw.

I think the Sub you installed is to big for what i'm after I was thinking of one that could fit under the seat while leaving the exsisting head end in.

http://www.ryda.com.au/Ryda-Car-Audio-Powered-Subwoofer-Store-s/65.htm

How did it sound with every thing installed?

Russ

Sounds great with the new headunit. it has specific RCA outs for the sub so i think this helps. And the Sub has a sep control for the bass level so i can crank it right up so that even at the lowest volume the back of my seat vibrates (quite soothing) or can turn it almost off so it doesn't thump the back of the seat that the little fella sits in. I think i'd struggle to go back to stock.

The size has only bothered me twice in the 6 months it's been there. both were when i needed to fit the pram in the back as well as some other stuff, and leave enough room for the dog (a lab). but these ratchet things work wonders!

MickL
04-06-2008, 07:01 PM
and leave enough room for the dog (a lab). but these ratchet things work wonders!


:shock: How do you get him to sit still long enough to strap him down?? :lol:

McBAIN
04-06-2008, 07:20 PM
have you seen the tv adds for Smacko's? they work wonders! :)

i probably should re phrase that before some animal rights people come knocking on the door!

mjforder
04-06-2008, 07:22 PM
have you seen the tv adds for Smacko's? they work wonders! :)

i probably should re phrase that before some animal rights people come knocking on the door!

if it were a female dog you would have been visited by the feminist animal right movement rep

:wink:

Chinaman
23-01-2009, 04:22 PM
Just found this on ebay here
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/6x9-Spea ... 0112315486 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/6x9-Speaker-Adapters-Lexus-GX-03-09-Front_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742Q2em153Q2el12 62QQcategoryZ38636QQihZ021QQitemZ310112315486)

Better than making your own

8608
24-12-2009, 11:56 PM
instead of starting up a new thread, i thought i would just revive this one.

replaced my speakers in the doors a couple of weeks ago. i had already put a new headunit in a few months earlier, and the factory speakers weren't cutting the mustard.

this is also posted in my rig build up viewtopic.php?f=38&t=5853 (http://www.pradopoint.com/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=5853)

here's some pics of the speaker install. i used 3mm alloy plate. prolly coulda used something else though.
i measured the original speaker mounting points for the adaptor plates. then cut the hole out to mount the speaker.

this is the front doors. the stocko speakers are 20w 6"x9" size.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/sikid_01/DSC00734.jpg

this is the back doors. the stocko speakers are 17.5w and about a 6.5" size.
it was hard to cut the hole out as i didn't have a 125mm hole saw. rough, yes, i know.
plus, the shape i came up with was based on the factory speakers, and looks a little like transformers too.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/sikid_01/DSC00735-1.jpg

this is the factory tweeter and tweeter bracket with the new JVC tweeter in place.
the JVC tweeter was a tight fit, so anything larger will be hard to fit.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/sikid_01/DSC00736-1.jpg

this is the rear JVC speaker mounted. the speaker would actually fit inside of the hole in the door. and the JVC is a 6.5" too.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/sikid_01/DSC00737.jpg
the rear JVC's are handle a max of about 200w and have a rubber surround (good for 4wd'ing)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/sikid_01/DSC00738.jpg


this is the front speaker. JVC splits and handle a max of about 250w. what i liked about these splits was that there wasn't a crossover unit to try and mount.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/sikid_01/DSC00739.jpg

this is the factory tweeter location behind the door trim. the JVC tweeter is mounted already.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/sikid_01/DSC00741.jpg

this is a pic of factory speakers. the tweeters are so small its hard to see them. front speakers are larger and more powerful than the rears.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/sikid_01/DSC00742.jpg

i have already upgraded the stereo head unit to a Sony unit, and i am running standard factory wiring to the speakers with an 600w amp to power a 12" sub in the back. the difference is outstanding. clearer crisper sound and no distortion higher up in the volume range.

LeighW
25-12-2009, 09:00 AM
Have a look at the focal Bus 20 powered subwoofers. They are square and very flat
and will fit under the drivers seat. They have a very heavy duty aluminium case
and sound very good for their size. I fitted one of these to my Polaris GPS, in my
case I mounted it on the top of my storage shelves, sounds great!

LeighW